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Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on October 20, 2006, 07:27:46 am

Hiya.. with the Awana Retreat still fresh on our mind, let me pop this proposal here.



I've been wanting to drop by Angkor Wat for a visit, and are looking at this year-end to make the trip. No dates fixed yet, prob Dec. I'm thinking of spending about a week there, to fully explore all the temples of Angkor.



So any gamers wishing to join us are most welcome! We can play some boardgames along the way too!! Hmm... pictures of us playing boardgames in the ruins of Angkor would be priceless



Not many ppl know that the entire Angkor complex is as geographically large as Paris! Angkor was also featured in Angelina Jolie's Tomb Raider 2 movie.



btw there's also a boardgame called "Angkor"
http://boardgamegeek.com/game/19651



ANGKOR. There are two great complexes of ancient temples in Southeast Asia, one at Bagan in Burma, the other at Angkor in Cambodia. The temples of Angkor, built by the Khmer civilization between 802 and 1220 AD, represent one of humankind's most astonishing and enduring architectural achievements. From Angkor the Khmer kings ruled over a vast domain that reached from Vietnam to China to the Bay of Bengal. The structures one sees at Angkor today, more than 100 stone temples in all, are the surviving remains of a grand religious, social and administrative metropolis whose other buildings - palaces, public buildings, and houses - were built of wood and are long since decayed and gone.





Useful Links
http://www.angkorwat.org/
http://www.sacredsites.com/asia/cambodia/angkor_wat.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angkor_Wat
http://www.theangkorguide.com/
http://angkorguide.org/
http://www.theangkorguide.com/





There is only one way to best view Angkor - without unnecessary stress and with some benefit - and that is to allow at least a week, and to visit within reason two or three temples per day maximum. If this period of time is insufficient to penetrate to all the secrets of the very particular architecture and the dense ornamentation - which require a certain adaptation in order to fully appreciate their value - it is instead permitted to at least taste their charms, to assimilate the rudiments of Khmer Art, and to leave with a desire to study them in more depth.



A stay of short duration will, however, give a good idea of the ensemble - on condition that one paces one's programme according to the small amount of time at one's disposal, and has no pretension to 'see everything'. For this reason, we propose several itinerary types to aid the task of the hurried tourist. A minimum of three days would seem to us essential to make contact with the principal monuments of the group.



Angkor may be visited in all seasons. However the most favourable period extends from November to March, during the first months of the dry season, when the temperature is particularly clement. In contrast, April and May are hot and humid, and then come the rains - through to September - which put one at risk of immobilisation for several hours - though without always lasting an entire day. They are extremely rare in the morning, and the sandy soil quickly dries. This is the time when the forest becomes alive and verdant, when the reservoirs and moats refill, when the stones become covered in creepers and lichens - and it is only important to no longer climb, except with extreme caution, amongst the boulders and on the sandstone blocks, which the moss renders slippery.



It is preferable, particularly in the hot season, to leave early in the morning and to return before eleven o'clock, and not to revisit in the afternoon until three or four o'clock - the light at the end of the day being generally more favourable. The majority of the monuments - and in particular Angkor Wat - lose much in being viewed against the light.



We would especially recommend the setting of the sun at Angkor Wat, where sometimes the spectacle will include the flight of the bats in the fading light, or from the top of Phnom Bakheng or Phnom Krom, or the terrace of the Srah Srang - or else from the beach of the baray, where the bathing is delightful. Finally, if you have the opportunity, do not miss, by the light of the full moon, the second level courtyard of Angkor Wat at the foot of the central tower, or the upper terrace of the Bayon.

SUGGESTED ITINERARIES



1. FOR ONE MORNING
Angkor Wat, Bayon, the Small Circuit, a traverse of Ta Prohm from the west to the east, the terrace of Srah Srang.
Distance - 27 kilometres.



2. FOR ONE AFTERNOON
The Bayon, the Small Circuit, a traverse of Ta Prohm from the west to the east, the terrace of Srah Srang, Angkor Wat.
Distance - 30 kilometres.



3. FOR ONE DAY
morning
The Grand Circuit, with a visit to Pre Rup, Neak Pean, Prah Khan (traverse from east to west), the terrace of the Leper King.
Distance - 37 kilometres.



afternoon
The Bayon, the Small Circuit, a traverse of Ta Prohm from the west to the east, the terrace of Srah Srang, Angkor Wat.
Distance - 30 kilometres.



4. FOR TWO DAYS



first day
morning
The Bayon, the terrace of the Leper King, Tep Pranam, Prah Palilay,
the Royal Palace, the Baphuon.
Distance - 20 kilometres.



afternoon
The small circuit via the Royal Palace, the Victory Gate, Ta Prohm (traverse from west to east), Banteay Kdei (ditto), the terrace of Srah Srang, and possibly Phnom Bakheng.
Distance - 27 and 32 kilometres.



second day
morning
The Grand Circuit, with a visit to Pre Rup, Banteay Samre, Neak Pean, Prah Khan (traversed from east to west)
Distance - 46 kilometres.



afternoon
Angkor Wat
Distance - 12 kilometres.



5. FOR THREE DAYS



first day
morning
The Bayon, the terrace of the Leper King, Tep Pranam, Prah Palilay, the Royal Palace, the Baphuon
Distance - 20 kilometres.



afternoon
The Kleang and Prah Pithu, the Victory Gate, Thommanon, Chau Say, Takeo, on returning Phnom Bakheng
Distance - 26 kilometres.



second day
morning
The Grand Circuit, with a visit to Pre Rup, Mebon, Ta Som, Neak Pean, Prah Khan (traversing from east to west)
Distance - 37 kilometres.



afternoon
Prasat Kravan, Ta Prohm (traversing from west to east), Banteay Kdei (traversing from west to east), the terrace of Srah Srang.
Distance - 26 kilometres.



third day
morning
Banteay Samre, Banteay Srei
Distance - 70 kilometres.



afternoon
Angkor Wat
Distance - 12 kilometres.



6. FOR FOUR DAYS



first day
morning
The Bayon, terrace of the Leper King, Tep Pranam, Prah Palilay,
the Royal Palace
Distance - 20 kilometres.



afternoon
Baphuon, the Kleang and Prah Pithu, the Victory Gate, Thommanon, Chau Say, on returning Phnom Bakheng
Distance - 24 kilometres.



second day
morning
Takeo, Ta Prohm (crossing from west to east), Banteay Kdei
(crossing from west to east), the terrace or Srah Srang, Prasat Kravan.
Distance - 28 kilometres.



afternoon
Angkor Wat
Distance - 12 kilometres.



third day
morning
The Grand Circuit, with a visit to Pre Rup, Mebon, Ta Som, Neak Pean, Prah Khan (passing through from east to west)
Distance - 37 kilometres.



afternoon
Siem Reap river and Phnom Krom
Distance - 25 kilometres.



fourth day
morning
Banteay Samre, Banteay Srei
Distance - 70 kilometres.



afternoon
The Roluos group (Bakong, Prah Ko), the western baray (swimming)
Distance - 54 kilometres.



7. FOR FIVE DAYS



first day
morning
The Bayon, the terrace of the Elephants and of the Leper King,
Tep Pranam, Prah Palilay, the Royal Palace.
Distance - 20 kilometres



afternoon
The Baphuon, the Kleang and Prah Pithu, the Victory Gate, Thommanon, Chau Say
Distance - 24 kilometres



second day
morning
Takeo, Ta Prohm (crossing from west to east), Banteay Kdei
(crossing from west to east), the terrace of Srah Srang, Prasat Kravan.
Distance - 28 kilometres.



afternoon
The Bayon (to study the bas-reliefs), Phnom Bakheng.

third day
morning
The Grand Circuit, with a visit to Pre Rup, Mebon, Ta Som, Neak Pean, Prah Khan, (passing from east to west)
Distance - 37 kilometres.



afternoon
Angkor Wat
Distance - 12 kilometres.



fourth day
morning
Banteay Samre, Banteay Srei
Distance - 70 kilometres.



afternoon
Siem Reap river, Phnom Krom
Distance - 25 kilometres.



fifth day
morning
The Roluos group (Bakong, Prah Ko, perhaps also Lolei)
Distance - 28 and 30 kilometres.



afternoon
Angkor Wat (to study the bas-reliefs), western baray (swimming)
Distance - 38 kilometres.



8. FOR SIX DAYS AND MORE
Ad libitum, including the secondary temples and,
perhaps, with an excursion to Beng Mealea (a day trip)
Distance - 100 kilometres.



----------------------------------
Anyone interested?

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: ayheng on October 20, 2006, 05:09:55 pm
Wow. How much for all that?
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on October 29, 2006, 07:25:22 pm

Very nicely taken photos from someone who has visited Angkor Wat. Looks like pro.



http://www.fotop.net/kokuryo/SiamReap06





Copyright Kokruyo

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on October 29, 2006, 08:04:45 pm

Here's a good map of the various temples scattered around the Angkor site. To visit ALL the temples will need more than a 3-day visit.



Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: friedricetheman on November 05, 2006, 03:59:14 pm
Wah!! Then we can play 1801 (Death Railways of Cambodia) in Angkot Wat..... Sounds good. When is it going to be?
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on November 05, 2006, 05:31:59 pm
Planning for Dec 2006 if possible (and if it's not too soon).
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on September 24, 2007, 07:17:06 pm

[quote user="jack208"]Planning for Dec 2006 if possible (and if it's not too soon).[/quote]



Absolutely intrigued!Been dying to  visit Angkor Wat.

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on September 24, 2007, 07:19:02 pm
[quote user="c mun"]

[quote user="jack208"]Planning for Dec 2006 if possible (and if it's not too soon).[/quote]



Absolutely intrigued!Been dying to  visit Angkor Wat.



[/quote]



Hahaha!I'm still living in 2006.Missed the date.Anyway,planning a retreat this year?

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on September 24, 2007, 11:42:33 pm
Still in planning stage, c_mun. Not likely to be tis year, mebbe next. Now we know who to invite when this is onz. [:P]
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on September 25, 2007, 09:31:55 pm

[quote user="jack208"]Still in planning stage, c_mun. Not likely to be tis year, mebbe next. Now we know who to invite when this is onz. [:P][/quote]



Splendid!A 3 to 4 days retreat would be great.Places to consider :Krabi;Borobudor,Jogja.

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: wolfx on September 26, 2007, 07:43:26 am
[quote user="c mun"]

[quote user="jack208"]Still in planning stage, c_mun. Not likely to be tis year, mebbe next. Now we know who to invite when this is onz. [:P][/quote]



Splendid!A 3 to 4 days retreat would be great.Places to consider :Krabi;Borobudor,Jogja.



[/quote]



I'd love it if we do a relaxing Bali tour with boardgames as highlights at night. :p



 

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: rhyen on September 26, 2007, 07:14:38 pm
[quote user="wolfx"][quote user="c mun"]

[quote user="jack208"]Still in planning stage, c_mun. Not likely to be tis year, mebbe next. Now we know who to invite when this is onz. [:P][/quote]



Splendid!A 3 to 4 days retreat would be great.Places to consider :Krabi;Borobudor,Jogja.



[/quote]



I'd love it if we do a relaxing Bali tour with boardgames as highlights at night. :p



[/quote]

Would be definitely safer than cruising the streets but I believe that the local authorities have done a decent job of protecting tourist at the usual hot spots.
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on September 27, 2007, 03:48:54 am
[quote user="rhyen"][quote user="wolfx"][quote user="c mun"]

[quote user="jack208"]Still in planning stage, c_mun. Not likely to be tis year, mebbe next. Now we know who to invite when this is onz. [:P][/quote]



Splendid!A 3 to 4 days retreat would be great.Places to consider :Krabi;Borobudor,Jogja.



[/quote]



I'd love it if we do a relaxing Bali tour with boardgames as highlights at night. :p



[/quote]

Would be definitely safer than cruising the streets but I believe that the local authorities have done a decent job of protecting tourist at the usual hot spots.
[/quote]



Best time to visit was immediately right after the bombing.Air Asia offered free tickets and hotel rates were super cheap!Done that.If we do Bali,we shall play JAVA, a game on developing the Central Javanese Plains .

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on September 27, 2007, 08:56:11 pm

[quote user="c mun"]Best time to visit was immediately right after the bombing.Air Asia offered free tickets and hotel rates were super cheap!Done that.If we do Bali,we shall play JAVA, a game on developing the Central Javanese Plains .[/quote]



btw c_mun, we've Tikal in our games library. It's one of the trios in the Mask Trilogy series (the other being Mexica). All these Mask series games are Out-of-stock and some OOP even.



I find Tikal is a game that ladies luv to play. Mebbe becoz the game board is so beautiful... We can bring tis to OTK next.

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on September 30, 2007, 04:05:40 pm
[quote user="jack208"]

[quote user="c mun"]Best time to visit was immediately right after the bombing.Air Asia offered free tickets and hotel rates were super cheap!Done that.If we do Bali,we shall play JAVA, a game on developing the Central Javanese Plains .[/quote]



btw c_mun, we've Tikal in our games library. It's one of the trios in the Mask Trilogy series (the other being Mexica). All these Mask series games are Out-of-stock and some OOP even.



I find Tikal is a game that ladies luv to play. Mebbe becoz the game board is so beautiful... We can bring tis to OTK next.



[/quote]



Indeed,the hexagonal tiles and bright coloured components make an intriguing sight to behold.Great games to practice negotiation and trading skills.Pity they're out of stock.When is the next shipment ?And yes,would be most appreciative if I can stretch my mind on it with BGC's test set.

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: rhyen on October 01, 2007, 12:56:52 pm
[quote user="c mun"]

Indeed,the hexagonal tiles and bright coloured components make an intriguing sight to behold.Great games to practice negotiation and trading skills.Pity they're out of stock.When is the next shipment ?And yes,would be most appreciative if I can stretch my mind on it with BGC's test set.

[/quote]

Come, demand, play!
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on October 02, 2007, 10:00:22 am
[quote user="rhyen"][quote user="c mun"]

Indeed,the hexagonal tiles and bright coloured components make an intriguing sight to behold.Great games to practice negotiation and trading skills.Pity they're out of stock.When is the next shipment ?And yes,would be most appreciative if I can stretch my mind on it with BGC's test set.



[/quote]

Come, demand, play!
[/quote]



Quite certain I can test my skills with Tikal as Jeff will allow me to testdrive his precious OOP set.However ,cant say the same about JAVA & MEXICA as they're also OOP (checked with Toybox,York)Any kind souls out there has these sets from the Trilogy?

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: wolfx on October 02, 2007, 12:28:32 pm

Hah? Play another OOS / OOP game ar? :(



 

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on October 02, 2007, 09:14:02 pm
It's not actually OOP, more like OOS for us. We shud be able to get some stock in Nov. But on the other hand, if wolfx plays the game, it might go OOP by end October! [rotfl]
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on October 03, 2007, 04:04:17 am

 



Would like to try out SoC too,if u have an open set.

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: LoStBoYz on October 03, 2007, 02:19:01 pm
[quote user="c mun"]

 



Would like to try out SoC too,if u have an open set.

[/quote]

Your mean Settlers of Catan or Shadows over Camelot?
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on October 03, 2007, 07:50:11 pm
[quote user="LoStBoYz"]
Your mean Settlers of Catan or Shadows over Camelot?
[/quote]

I think she meant Shadows over Camelot.



c_mun, if it's Shadows over Camelot, you'll have to invite the good Datuk (aka LostBoyz) to visit OTK. He does that every now and then. What happens is every Fri at 5pm, he rolls a die (D6). If the roll is odd number, he'll be at OTK. If even, he'll go to some pub and drink himself silly.



It's been "even" for the past few weeks... hehe

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: shrapnel on October 04, 2007, 12:32:33 am
[quote user="jack208"][quote user="LoStBoYz"]
Your mean Settlers of Catan or Shadows over Camelot?
[/quote]

I think she meant Shadows over Camelot.



c_mun, if it's Shadows over Camelot, you'll have to invite the good Datuk (aka LostBoyz) to visit OTK. He does that every now and then. What happens is every Fri at 5pm, he rolls a die (D6). If the roll is odd number, he'll be at OTK. If even, he'll go to some pub and drink himself silly.



It's been "even" for the past few weeks... hehe

[/quote]

Easy stuff then, c_mun,

1. bring a die - all odd.
2. bring kilkenny
3. repeat no.2
4. repeat no.3



Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on October 04, 2007, 04:21:15 am

 



It is the latter.I have Settlers and planning to expand my nuelins futher with Seafarers.Err,Datuk ,do they have takeaways Kilkenny at Delaneys?It would be excellent if we can play the game on Raya Eve at OTK.Yes,yes,with the Kilkenny.(I'll start something brewing in my backyard keg right away,hehehe...)



 

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: wolfx on October 04, 2007, 05:22:30 am
[quote user="c mun"]

 



It is the latter.I have Settlers and planning to expand my nuelins futher with Seafarers.Err,Datuk ,do they have takeaways Kilkenny at Delaneys?It would be excellent if we can play the game on Raya Eve at OTK.Yes,yes,with the Kilkenny.(I'll start something brewing in my backyard keg right away,hehehe...)



 



[/quote]



I'm all for kilkenny. =D Take away? Why not we buy the whole tap of it to bring to new BGC outlet. O Zoo Le Mio playing while drinking Kilkenny will even the odds for me. XD

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: shrapnel on October 04, 2007, 07:31:13 am
[quote user="wolfx"]

I'm all for kilkenny. =D Take away? Why not we buy the whole tap of it to bring to new BGC outlet. O Zoo Le Mio playing while drinking Kilkenny will even the odds for me. XD

[/quote]

Amen, Brother!!
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on October 04, 2007, 02:07:57 pm
[quote user="wolfx"][quote user="c mun"]

 



It is the latter.I have Settlers and planning to expand my nuelins futher with Seafarers.Err,Datuk ,do they have takeaways Kilkenny at Delaneys?It would be excellent if we can play the game on Raya Eve at OTK.Yes,yes,with the Kilkenny.(I'll start something brewing in my backyard keg right away,hehehe...)



 



[/quote]



 



I'm all for kilkenny. =D Take away? Why not we buy the whole tap of it to bring to new BGC outlet. O Zoo Le Mio playing while drinking Kilkenny will even the odds for me. XD



[/quote]



Imagine Kilkenny splatered all over Jeff's game....someone will die young....[yeahyeah]

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: LoStBoYz on October 04, 2007, 03:38:35 pm
Oi, Kilkenny VERY expensive wor. If someone spills it they better lick it, boardgame or no boardgame.
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: rhyen on October 05, 2007, 09:27:07 am
[quote user="jack208"][quote user="LoStBoYz"]
Your mean Settlers of Catan or Shadows over Camelot?
[/quote]

I think she meant Shadows over Camelot.



c_mun, if it's Shadows over Camelot, you'll have to invite the good Datuk (aka LostBoyz) to visit OTK. He does that every now and then. What happens is every Fri at 5pm, he rolls a die (D6). If the roll is odd number, he'll be at OTK. If even, he'll go to some pub and drink himself silly.



It's been "even" for the past few weeks... hehe

[/quote]

ODD! ODD! ODD! ODD! ODD! ODD! ODD!
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: rhyen on October 05, 2007, 09:31:17 am
[quote user="wolfx"]

I'm all for kilkenny. =D Take away? Why not we buy the whole tap of it to bring to new BGC outlet. O Zoo Le Mio playing while drinking Kilkenny will even the odds for me. XD

[/quote]

I don't drink, just in case you people play the tiles wrongly.
you need someone sober to the the referee...
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: rhyen on October 05, 2007, 09:34:23 am
[quote user="LoStBoYz"]Oi, Kilkenny VERY expensive wor. If someone spills it they better lick it, boardgame or no boardgame.
[/quote]

at least the guy will die knowing that he has tasted Kilkenny in a way that most people have not tried yet.
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on October 05, 2007, 10:00:40 am
[quote user="rhyen"][quote user="wolfx"]

I'm all for kilkenny. =D Take away? Why not we buy the whole tap of it to bring to new BGC outlet. O Zoo Le Mio playing while drinking Kilkenny will even the odds for me. XD



[/quote]

I don't drink, just in case you people play the tiles wrongly.
you need someone sober to the the referee...
[/quote]



And to wipe up the spillage .....hehehe..[cheers]

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: rhyen on October 05, 2007, 10:33:11 am
[quote user="c mun"][quote user="rhyen"][quote user="wolfx"]

I'm all for kilkenny. =D Take away? Why not we buy the whole tap of it to bring to new BGC outlet. O Zoo Le Mio playing while drinking Kilkenny will even the odds for me. XD



[/quote]

I don't drink, just in case you people play the tiles wrongly.
you need someone sober to the the referee...
[/quote]



And to wipe up the spillage .....hehehe..[cheers]

[/quote]

yes, using their tongues and the bodies as rags
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on March 15, 2008, 11:37:51 pm

Bumping this thread. We are almost certain of doing this trip this Nov (ie 2008). Anyone interested pls put yr name here or PM me. Flights can be via MAS or Air Asia (I wud prefer MAS but I suppose both oso can get us there).



Will be getting some books from Amazon to brush up knowledge in order to appreciate the place better.



Hopefully can get the OOP Java and Mexica, then we can do all the three MASK trilogy games there hehe....



[fiesta]

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: rhyen on March 16, 2008, 12:24:57 am
Have a friend who recommended flying in to Bangkok, and then trekking/bussing over the border. Much more interesting places to visit along the way. Will try to get more details from him.
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on March 16, 2008, 06:16:03 pm

err... dun think that's what we are planning to do. The "interesting places" for this trip are all in Angkor Wat itself. Ya, we know Thailand has many interesting places but that's for another trip.



We intend to spend 6 days going to the various points in Angkor Wat so add in traveling time etc you are already looking at a 8-9 days break. So it's unlikely we are going to spend a few more days trekking/bussing... KL-PP then Angkor, back to PP-KL [:P]

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on March 17, 2008, 05:53:48 pm
[+:o)] Count me in .Nov is a good month but do standby your rain coats....[um][st]
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on March 17, 2008, 06:05:52 pm

An absolute fascinating way to travel.However a week is not ample for you to 'trek' from Bangkok to Pnom Pemh! My last backpacking to Thailand was 9 days from Hadyai-Surat Thani-Samui-Surat Thani-Bangkok-Chiangmai.The train ride from Bangkok - Chiangmai  is 16 hours!Didnt even get to see ChiangRai. And I dont think everyone can go ,ehem, ' lonely planet ' style... 

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on March 17, 2008, 09:18:02 pm

[quote user="c mun"][+:o)] Count me in .Nov is a good month but do standby your rain coats....[um][st][/quote]



Rainy season ar? Dun think that's what we are planning for... which month no rain? Dun wan Tikal/Java to get wet. hehe

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on March 17, 2008, 10:22:38 pm
[quote user="jack208"]

[quote user="c mun"][+:o)] Count me in .Nov is a good month but do standby your rain coats....[um][st][/quote]



Rainy season ar? Dun think that's what we are planning for... which month no rain? Dun wan Tikal/Java to get wet. hehe



[/quote]



These few months will be scorching hot, high humidity temp.of 36 C and above in the day with the occ. afternoon rain.Just found out : Monsoon is June to Oct.The Dry season is Nov to Feb.

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: trionaleo on May 09, 2008, 08:16:14 am

i went to Angkor during march. was really nice. Try get a flight straight to Siem Reap. Theres nothing much in Phonm Pehn except the killing fields and the genocide museum, but its worth a look if u have time.



If you truly want to see the temples take a 2/3 day pass and so u can take ure time at all the temples. There are alooot of temples. Go to Angkor during sunrise... its amazing.



And be prepared, Siem Reap is a very hooottt and dusty place.



PS: dont give money to the kids no matter how sad they look.

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: ayheng on May 10, 2008, 10:28:24 am
Thanks for the heads up. Looking forward to go there soon. [:)]
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on May 26, 2008, 12:58:15 am
Jeff, any plans made for this trip yet?
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on May 28, 2008, 11:32:13 am

[quote user="c mun"]Jeff, any plans made for this trip yet?[/quote]



No confirmed plans but we are definitely looking at Nov for the trip. Will advise once we've fixed the dates.

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on June 17, 2008, 06:59:21 am

MAS is offering tickets KUL-REP (Siem Reap) for RM0!! Well, it's RM496 return once you add in the surcharges, taxes, etc but still a great deal (I think the last time I checked, a return ticket would cost RM900+)



Offer ends 22/6/08 but it's valid for travel till Mar next year. However if you take up this offer, you need to confirm your travel plans now.. which I think may be tough for most of us. Otherwise I wud have snapped up this offer. [:)]



But if anyone of you *can* confirm a Nov Angkor trip and would like to snap up this cheap ticket, beep me.

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on June 17, 2008, 08:09:08 am

Can confirm me.[thumbsup]

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: shrapnel on June 17, 2008, 11:48:59 am
offers sounds good. I think i'll take it (...since A.Jolie has been bugging me to secretly met her there...)
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on June 17, 2008, 03:27:49 pm

Updating this with Angkor visit tips (from Google)



RE: Is it possible travel to the temples from Siem reap by bicycle?
Posted: Mon December 25, 2006 03:36 AM UTC



Yes very possible. There are two circuits you can go around one is 17km the other 25km the road is very flat. You can also cycle out to the Rouluos group and Angkor Krom. I think there are plenty of places renting bicycles, I got one for $5 for three days. for the further out temples and Kbal Spean you will need a moto. I can't remember if I had a lock with my bike or not, probably. In any case the vendors will be happy to mind your bike while you go for a look-see. 


 


Posted: Mon December 25, 2006 05:36 AM UTC

Bicycle is one way, but there are tons of buildings inclusive in the Ankor Wat complex. i did it by hiring a motor bike. it was cheap, effecient and i was still tired at the end of the day. We took a second day to make it to the far away temples. There is a lot of ground to cover, so i would give a second thought to a motorbike hire. A guide will drive, you just sit on the back. also, these are more like mopeds than motorcycles.
 


Posted: Mon December 25, 2006 11:51 AM UTC

Hi, Just got back from there on the 21st. Yes it possible for you to visit the temples by bicycle. You can rent a bike from your Hotel, and if you rent a motor-bicycle (not a motorbike) its a bicycle with motor, you can park them at designated spots just outside the temples. They are there for rented bikes to park. As for normal bicycles, dont worry..just park it at the shops outside the temples..and have a drink at the shop later...they would be more than happy to takecare of the bike.
 
I agree for Bantey Samre,Bantey Seri and Kabal Spean(1000 Lingas) you would need transport....its too far for your to cycle...unless you are the tour de france type.
 
The weather now is kinda cool even in the afternoon.
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on June 17, 2008, 03:38:03 pm

Posted: Thu December 7, 2006 10:19 PM UTC



Kirby, along with the driver's information that we use and recomend highly (has all the knowledge you're looking for), we also recomend an Aspara show, close to the hotel we stayed at. It was great being able to watch the amazing dancing and they also include a wonderful all you can eat meal.


 


Posted: Tue December 12, 2006 04:26 PM UTC

Yes, that was the rate (US20/day) when we were there last year. I also tipped him an additional $5.00/day for the two of us as he ran us around all day. You will definetely need a driver. Temples are very far in between. You cannot walk, especially with a 60yo in tow between temples. They look close together on a map but the distances are great.


 


I agree you do not need a guide, reading and hanging around other guides if they are available (eavesdropping) - which is not ethically correct but, oh well, is sufficient. Your driver, if he's as good as ours, has all the basic knowledge you should need.


 


Posted: Wed December 13, 2006 07:12 AM UTC

Travelshoe,

Tuk-tuks are a great way to get around, but with 4 people you will need either two tuk-tuks or one taxi. Tuk-tuks are slightly more bumpy, but certainly much more fun. If you are looking for a tuk-tuk, I can recommend the driver we had last week - Sokhom (miek_sokhom@yahoo.com, +855 12 83 1817). Sokhom speaks good English, and was very reliable. He will accomodate your wishes and we were very pleased with his service.


 


Posted: Wed December 13, 2006 09:58 AM UTC

Hi there,
 
I have to agree with the rest of the folks here that taking hiring a driver and car is the best way to go. Since you're travelling with ladies, I would definitely recommend a nice 4wd or the very least, a Toyota Camry . Well, at least that's what I did with my diva friends. We paid USD20 a day. We didn't want a tuk tuk, we reckon that with the poor roads and terrible tuk tuk suspension would drive us nuts.
 
I don't you'll face any difficulty getting a driver over there. Every hotel/guest house has a recommended list and generally, most drivers have a basic knowledge of the temples and nice places to eat. Just point to note, most places allow the drivers to eat for free ( as part of their commission ) so do a gd deed and ask your driver to recommend those eateries for you.
 
Btw, there's this great eatery that goes by the name of MOM BAYON. It's very famous and most drivers know where it is. Try the mango shake when you're there.
 
And apsara dancers, I can't recommend Grand Hotel D'Angkor (owned by the Singapore Raffles Hotel Mgt) enough. The dancers ( from the local orphanage ) are very highly skilled and well trained. During the peak season, the hotel organises a good al fresco buffet and dance performance. The price is a bit on the high side but go for it if you're want to give your mom a treat:) And yes, order the Singapore Sling while you're there, it tastes better there somehow ( take my word for it, I'm Singaporean)


 


Posted: Wed December 13, 2006 07:46 AM UTC

yes, i advice you to get a driver. you may opt to hire a camri taxi for your day trips. the rate now is from USD20-25 per day. taxi is comfortable especially if you have your mom travelling with you.
 
the driver that we met is also good and trustworthy. he will suggest a good place for you to visit and were to eat...his name is pov. you may have his contact number here http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/77003/64a/9/  
 
enjoy your trip to siem reap! 
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on June 17, 2008, 03:48:59 pm

Travel guides with plenty of links
http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Asia/Cambodia/Khett_Siem_Reab/Angkor_Wat-1202517/TravelGuide-Angkor_Wat.html
 



RE: What time does it open?
Posted: Thu November 30, 2006 08:41 AM UTC



I'm not sure what time it opens at but you can go out to do sunrise which is quite popular. We were lucky enough to go out for sunrise and have an almost clear sky in November 2005 which meant being picked up at about 5:30 - 5:45am and sunrise was around 6:15am (I think). At that time there are probably a few hundred visitors but it is still the quietest time to go. Using imaginative angles can often help with reducing the number of people in photographs.


 


Posted: Fri December 1, 2006 04:59 AM UTC

Yes, tons of people show up for sunrise, and expect that crowds will be larger at this time of year. But shortly after sunrise the majority of them leave the complex. So, the rest of the morning is relatively quiet - unless the busloads of Japanese package tourists arrive. Late afternoon is also a busy time.


 
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: shrapnel on June 20, 2008, 06:41:29 am
Cmun,



kindly suggest what kind of shots we need (apart from the Super Soldier Serum)...
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on June 23, 2008, 08:17:22 am

http://www.canbypublications.com/cambodia/visas.htm#Vaccinations



I  recommend the Hepatitis A(3 doses) , Cholera and Thyphoid Vaccines to prevent food borne diseases. Oral Malaria Prophylaxis highly recommended. 

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on June 23, 2008, 10:53:05 pm

One of a well recommended hotel that's not expensive is the Queen Villa Angkor Hotel, around USD20-25/nite. Standard room comes with 21" TV, aircon, and private bath. Does not look like they've broadband but they offer pickup from airport. Comes with a nice swimming pool and offers free buffet breakfast.



Website: Queen Villa Angkor (pic see below)



Another nice hotel is Princess Angkor Hotel, more costly at USD55/nite. This has gym/fitness center and even broadband in their suite (that's USD100 oops)



Website: Princess Angkor Hotel



Need to find out which one is closer to where we wanna go... but this is how Princess Angkor looks like...





.. and the swimming pool in Princess Angkor





So nice.. I think wat we do is we stay at Queen Villa then pop over to all these beautiful hotels to take pictures!!



Here's a pic of one of the zippiest hotel in angkor (at USD190/nite no joke la) - the Hotel de la Paix



More pics of Hotel de la Paix here...

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on July 08, 2008, 09:24:54 am

All the hostels suggested here are recommended by Lonely Planet, not reviewed yet though.



Image 1 Siem Riep Hostel - Clean, bunk beds from USD 8.



Image 1     Image 3 



^ Happy Guest House, from USD 6.



Image 1  Image 2 



 Image 5



^ Khmer Inn Angkor, from USD 9.71 ( wierd, why the 71 cents ? )



http://hotels.lonelyplanet.com/hotel/?SearchDetails=I2008.11.18!2008.11.25!!4445078!2810!-1!10000!7!-1!-1!-1!-1!-1!-1!13.50.50!!!57.59.27.4.52!!1!17!1!0!&PreviousSearchId=4445078&TargetHotelId=-1&SubmitDates=False&VAError=-2147483648&IsSubmit=False

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on July 14, 2008, 08:42:34 am

For backpackers, Siem Riep Hostel has an amazing 94% review and most recommended by the travellers from Hostelworld.com. 95% in cleanliness and 97% for staff service. All others such as character of the accomodation, security, fun, location are rated above 92% and more.



Photos of The Siem Reap Hostel









The Siem Reap Hostel has been reviewed 140 times by Hostelworld.com customers.The average rating is calculated from customer ratings in the last 6 months.





About The Siem Reap Hostel
The newest Hostel built in Cambodia, specially designed
by travellers for travellers.
The Siem Reap Hostel is a clean and luxurious hostel at backpacker prices, featuring private and dorm rooms. All are ensuite! We also have 6 communal areas, restauraunt, bar and the only indoor swimming pool in Siem Reap.

It is owned and operated by Australian, Cambodian and British nationals, all of whom are experienced travellers who know how to cater for weary legs, dry mouths and rumbling tummies after a day of adventure.

The atmosphere is laid back with opportunites for relaxation, but should you want some excitement, there are various themes and activites available throughout the week. Our sound system and big screen tv are in our bar area where we screen special events and movies. We also have a free computer/internet room.

The Hostel backs onto the serene setting of the Wat Damnak Temple and is only one block away from the Old Market and the town centre making it the ideal location for exploring Siem Reap.




 

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on August 19, 2008, 08:51:00 am

Apparently I was informed the Cambodian Govn intend to "close" Angkor Wat; not sure if it was closing down temporarily to facilitate rebuilding or permanently to preserve this heritage.








Tourist invasion threatens to ruin glories of Angkor Wat



Justine Smith in Siem Reap
The Observer, Sunday February 25 2007



It has survived the collapse of the sophisticated civilisation that built it, centuries of consumption by the suffocating jungle and the nihilism of the Khmer Rouge, who beheaded its stone Buddhas and used its walls for target practice. Now, Cambodia's awe-inspiring Angkor Wat complex is facing the biggest threat in a millennium - the fastest-growing tourist onslaught of any World Heritage site, which conservationists warn is already damaging its treasures irreparably.



In 1993, after Angkor was added to Unesco's World Heritage List, just 7,650 intrepid visitors ventured to the site. Last year Sokimex, the oil company controversially granted the entrance concession on behalf of the government's Apsara Angkor management, sold almost 900,000 tickets worth $25m (£12.8m), with British travellers making up the fourth biggest contingent behind South Koreans, Japanese and North Americans. Three million visitors are expected in 2010.



Teruo Jinnai, Unesco's top official at Angkor, said: 'We are very concerned by this unprecedented, uncontrolled acceleration, which is damaging the monuments and the local environment. Preservation of the park for future generations has to be the number one priority, over and above commercial exploitation, which is mainly benefiting foreign interests instead of the local population.' Kerya Chau Sun, director of tourism at Angkor, said: 'We are finalising regulations for controlling visitors. We will train guards to watch the temples and educate visitors to help us protect the monuments.'



However, John Stubbs, who has spent 15 years working at Angkor with the New York-based World Monuments Fund, said: 'Tourism is already out of control, and unless the Cambodian government takes some pretty radical action to rein it in now much of Angkor's magic and heritage could be lost forever.' The five-tiered Phnom Bakheng hilltop temple, one of the most significant relics of the ancient Khmer civilisation, is one of the most endangered of the park's 40-plus monuments. More than 3,000 tourists clamber up its narrow stone staircases every evening, manhandling sandstone carvings as they jostle for a sunset view of Angkor Wat, the world's biggest religious structure. Stubbs said: 'It simply cannot survive this daily assault. Unless it is completely closed off for essential repairs, Phnom Bakheng will suffer critical damage.'



The World Bank warns that other temples, including the spectacular Bayon with four-faced Buddhas carved on its 54 towers, are sinking into their sandy foundations as the hospitality industry drains underground water reservoirs.



Meanwhile, the site's serenity is being overwhelmed by crass commercialisation, from the Las Vegas-style shopping malls in the mushrooming town, Siem Reap, to a gaudy Angkor theme park just outside the complex. In May a Nick Faldo-designed golf course opens, the second water-guzzling 18-holer to be built in two years within four miles of the park. And the area's water supplies are being polluted by hotels flushing untreated sewage into the flood-prone Siem Reap river.



So can the well-meaning traveller experience the splendours of Angkor without contributing to its decline? Jarrod Kyte, UK manager of Gecko's Adventures, which offers an eco-tour helping clean up rubbish at the site, said: 'We train local guides to make sure our clients know exactly how to dress and behave and we use locally owned restaurants and hotels.'



Sam Morton, 40, from Brighton, planned to stay in Siem Reap for five days - but stayed on to work with deprived children at the Volunteer Development Poverty Children School run by two young Buddhist monks. She said: 'Working in the school was incredibly rewarding and I at least felt I was giving something back.' The director and co-founder of the school, the Venerable Nn Rathana, said: 'By just taking one afternoon to volunteer and make a small donation, foreigners can make a real difference.'



Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/feb/25/travel.travelnews

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on August 19, 2008, 09:05:52 am

Heritage site in peril: Angkor Wat is falling down



One of the world's most celebrated temples is threatened with oblivion, as its ancient stones crumble from the sheer weight of tourism. Rob Sharp reports from Cambodia on a cultural jewel that has become too popular for its own good



Friday, 14 March 2008



At first glance, it is business as usual at the great sandstone temple of Angkor Wat. Through a drape of evening haze, the ancient Cambodian superstructure sees another batch of tourists process across its moat and marvel at its grandeur. Local teenagers waggle cool drinks in the faces of passers-by and auto-rickshaw or "tuk-tuk" drivers loudly vie for business. It looks like what it is – a boom town.



But the modern commercial success of the high-profile complex, on the site of the ancient city of Angkor, may be – literally – on shaky ground.



According to heritage experts carrying out restoration work at the temple, which is one of the biggest sets of religious ruins in the world, a plethora of new hotels, cashing in on the country's near-exponential rise in tourist numbers, is sapping gallons of water from beneath nearby urban areas. They say this could upset the delicate foundations on which Angkor Wat sits and could lead to parts of it – including its famous celestial apsara, or carved nymphs – taking an unheavenly tumble to earth.



Philippe Delanghe, the culture programme specialist at Unesco's Phnom Penh office, said this week: "There is a very important balance between the sand and water on which the temple is built. And if that balance is taken away then we might have trouble with collapse.



"The growth in the number of hotels around Angkor Wat has meant that more and more holes are being drilled into the earth to extract water from the water table. And this has profound consequences for this important mix.



"We saw something similar with the weakening of the stability of ruins in Indonesia two years ago, and there is the possibility that we will see something like this here." Mr Delanghe added that the long-term consequences of unstable ground beneath the monument could include cracked ceilings and falling pillars. "If it becomes so damaged then we will have no tourists," he added.



Locally, it is easy to see why comments such as these go down as badly as, say, a tumbling nymph. The temple, which is venerated enough to appear on the national flag, is the jewel in Cambodia's heritage crown. Not only is it in the best condition of any such structure at the Angkor site: it has been tightly linked with Cambodia's history for nearly a millennium. It is thought to have been built as a funerary temple for King Suryavarman II (who died in 1152) to honour Vishnu, the Hindu deity with whom he identified. The sandstone blocks from which it was constructed were quarried more than 30 miles away and floated down the Siem Reap river. Recent research suggests that Angkor – of which this temple was surely the centrepiece – was an urban settlement that covered some 700 square miles, comparable in size to Greater London, and therefore the world's largest medieval city.



With cultural attractions like this, it is little wonder that tourism is such an important source of revenue for the impoverished and (until 10 years ago) war-blighted nation. In many parts of Cambodia, a £100 annual income is still enough to live on.



In 1993, when Angkor was first added to Unesco's World Heritage List, the militant Khmer Rouge were still active in certain areas. Just 7,600 souls ventured to the temple complex that year. Since then, however, Cambodia has become "safe" in the eyes of the international community, and package tours have landed in fleets. In 2007, about two million tourists visited Cambodia, with half stopping at Angkor Wat. With tourist traffic continuing to increase by about 20 per cent year on year, some three million people are expected to visit the country in 2010. The temple has become a must-see stop on any tour of south-east Asia.



Such popularity is, clearly, a mixed blessing. At the nearby town of Siem Reap, there are now hundreds of garish hotels and guest-houses, with many more in the pipeline. Wealthy travellers can stay in the centrally located Le Meridien, replete with its Romanesque swimming pool, for about $300 (£150) a night, before heading out for a swift nine holes at the Nick Faldo-designed Angkor Golf Resort. Most of the restaurants serve Western food, and the Associated Press has reported that several notable old buildings have been razed to the ground to make room for fresh accommodation. "The identity Siem Reap had for centuries is gradually disappearing, or maybe almost disappeared," Teruo Jinnai, the director of Unesco's office in Cambodia, said recently. "You have restaurants, massage parlours, hotels, and it's very sad to see that." The crowds also take their toll on the local built heritage. "Pollution from buses, which often leave their engines running to supply air conditioning, will cause darkening of the stone," said Mr Delanghe. Further to this, the five-tiered Phnom Bakheng hilltop temple, an important relic of the ancient Khmer civilisation like Angkor Wat, sees some 3,000 tourists climb up its narrow stone staircases every evening. At its summit people can view a picturesque sunset over Angkor Wat. But on the way there, the punters are wearing through its precious sandstone carvings, which they use as handholds during the climb. John Stubbs, of the World Monuments Fund, said last year: "It simply cannot survive this daily assault. Unless it is completely closed off for essential repairs, Phnom Bakheng will suffer critical damage."



The growth of Siem Reap is causing other problems, too. "This tremendous growth added to population increase has been exacerbating pressure on infrastructure," a 2005 World Bank report said. "Energy, water, sewage and waste are all significant problems... Most guesthouses reportedly dump used water directly into the river, causing noticeable river pollution." E. coli, the bacteria found in human faeces, has begun seeping into local wells.



Sadly, the most high-profile victim of Cambodia's success in tourism could well be Angkor Wat itself. The World Bank report added that "one of Angkor's temples is reportedly falling into a sinkhole, suggesting that the underground aquifers may be rapidly disappearing". The monument in question was the Bayon temple, famous for the delicate faces carved on to its 54 towers. It is reportedly still collapsing into the sandy ground and visitors can observe its sinking foundations and widening cracks. The cultural specialists now claim that if it is happening there, it could happen anywhere.



Mr Jinnai said this week: "Test wells have conclusively proven that the ground water level is definitely lowering in Siem Reap town. While it is not yet considered at a dangerous level, if the water intake doubles or triples then it is going to get really dangerous around the city and this could well affect historic monuments such as Angkor Wat in the long term."



And even the former Japanese ambassador Fumiaki Takahashi, who during his recently ended tenure, bemoaned the lack of control surrounding water extraction in Siem Reap. It was the Cambodian government's "urgent task" to control such things, he explained, because "if you take too much water, it might affect the Angkor site. In the long run, the underground water will go down and the site would sink."



Soeung Kong, deputy director general of the Aspara Authority, which oversees Angkor's upkeep, has urged people to keep a level head about this potential damage. He told Agence France Press: "The harm to the temples is unavoidable. We are trying to keep that harm to a minimal level."



The Japan International Cooperation Agency (Jica) is collaborating with Unesco over recommendations for water management. One Jica report has suggested the removal of underground water from near Phnom Kraom, a hill near the edge of the Tonle Sap lake about 7.4 miles to the south, as an alternative to the town's own groundwater. The plan has won the backing of Cambodia's deputy tourism minister, Thong Khon.



Another solution put forward is the promotion of temples away from Angkor Wat, to relieve the pressure on it. This will be helped as infrastructure networks are built, such as a new road to Koh Ker, which boasts a collection of temples and towers to the north of Siem Reap. Another idea being considered by officials would be to limit access to the temple compound using a reservation system; such solutions would at least minimise the risks of direct damage by tourists.



Any of these systems could combine well with Heritage Watch, which promotes sustainable tourism in Siem Reap. The organisation certifies local companies as "heritage-friendly" or not. Such a label indicates the adherence to such things as clean environmental policies, support for the local economy, or contributions toward preservation. But overall, Mr Delanghe stressed that much more research was necessary before any particular path could be backed.



Unesco is due to come up with its final suggestions for the future in May. In all likelihood these recommendations, Mr Delanghe said, would include the suggested assembly of a central database to monitor the amount of water being extracted in Siem Reap. "As long as we don't have the data we don't know what is going on," he warned.



But back at Angkor Wat, we do. Dusk has fully descended. Tourists are being expelled from the site, and are being told, helpfully enough, to stop sitting on the ruins, lest they damage them with their rucksacks. One by one they file out from its inner sanctum: past the Statue of Vishnu, through the suitably gargantuan Elephant Gate, to make their careful way back across the sandstone causeway to the parked cars beyond. For now, the temple's future remains secure. The fleet of vehicles start their engines, fire up their air conditioning, and slowly make their way back to the growing sea of neon that is Siem Reap.



Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/heritage-site-in-peril-angkor-wat-is-falling-down-795747.html

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: shrapnel on August 22, 2008, 05:23:54 am
wat the..!!??
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on August 25, 2008, 07:32:41 pm

Appreciate the info. It is disheartening to read of the threats tourists like us are capable of and the erosion of culture, lifestyle and infrastructure all in the name of tourism. Shrapnel, remember not to place your heavy butt and naughty hands on the monuments![;)]

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on August 26, 2008, 07:54:57 am

btw I'll be starting to review/finalize accomodation - possiblly going for Queen Angkor Villa (see above) @ USD20/day but it has no internet access [:(]. and also trying to see if I can confirm car hire too.



It's already Sep so we need to start looking into the logistics.



cmun, I thot you'd a lady fren who's joining us? [;)]

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on September 02, 2008, 04:25:17 pm
Yes, I've sms the details of her flight and time departure and return to you last week.We're thinking of lodging at that Siem Riep hostel (USD 10 for bunkers) which is only a stone's throw from Queen Angkor Villa. What do you think?
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on September 02, 2008, 04:30:45 pm
Her name is Cheng Yee. You've met her when we played Settlers of Catan at OTK last year. CY and me are considering to hop over to Ho Chi Minh by bus KIV on the 3rd day.
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on September 17, 2008, 06:40:24 am

Grab the latest October Issue of Discovery Channel magazine for an intriguing write up on The Rise and Fall of The Angkor Kingdom and artist impressions of what life at Angkor was like in its glory . A satellite image proved the theory that the temples surrounded by a moat was interconnected through an eloborate series of canals and reservoirs flowed in from the Siem Reap River.

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on September 17, 2008, 10:09:41 am

Thanks for the heads-up. I bought a few books from Amazon, had meant to read them before the trip but my schd's all running wild now... luckily Waiyan is going thru some of them.





The 1st book talks about the entire civilization of Khmer. Pretty interesting but can be zzzz... if you are not into this type of info.

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on September 18, 2008, 09:24:43 am
Most of my reads are from Lonely Planet Asia, National Geographic, Discovery and Times. Some Encyclopedias too.
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on October 30, 2008, 06:10:32 am

Anyone bringing games?

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on November 02, 2008, 06:17:26 pm

Games? Not sure if we want to spend too much times on games while we are there.... but if u wanna bring some, most welcomed.



This is happening in two weeks time so need to start planning the itinerary. Need to know if you & CY are jumping off to Phnom Penh or staying with us for all 6 days. Ian - what about you?

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: shrapnel on November 03, 2008, 02:34:17 am
I may bring Infernal Contraption (nephew punya card game) http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/29456



I think there are plenty to look around in Angkor so I think I'd just stick around.



Is there anything great to see in Phnom Penh?
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: waiyan on November 05, 2008, 06:48:49 pm

Arrive at Siem Reap:  Tue, 18 Nov, 13:45



ITINERARY



Day 1 (18-11-2008)
-----------------------
Check-in to Khmer Inn Angkor
Old Market



Day 2 (19-11-2008)  - Angkor Thom
-----------------------
[Morning]
1. The Bayon (the giant faces)
[West part of Angkor Thom]
2. The terrace of the Elephants
3. The Leper King
4. Tep Pranam
5. Preah Palilay
6. The Royal Palace
7. Phimeanakas

[Afternoon]
1.  The Baphuon
[East part of Angkor Thom]
2. Prasat Suor Prat (a row of 12 towers)
3. The Kleang
4. Preah Pithu
5. The Victory Gate
6. Thommanon
7. Chau Say

Day 3 (20-11-2008) - Small Tour Circuit
-----------------------
[Morning]
1. Ta Keo (temple mountains type)
2. Ta Prohm (famous known as Tomb Raider temple)
3. Banteay Kdei
4. The terrace of Srah Srang
5. Prasat Kravan



[Afternoon]
1. The Bayon at Angkor Thom (to study the bas-reliefs)
2. Phnom Bakheng (hilltop temple).



Day 4 (21-11-2008) - The Grand Circuit, Angkor Wat
-----------------------
[Morning]
The Grand Circuit, with a visit to:
1. Pre Rup (temple mountains: 3-tiered platform at central area, and 5 towers on the top platform/Hindu),
2. East Mebon (once stood on a small island in Eastern Baray)
(passing from east to west)
3. Ta Som (feature many beautiful female devatas/Buddhist)
4. Neak Pean (set in a man made pond/Buddhist)
5. Preah Khan (an extensive Buddhist complex/Buddhist)



[Afternoon]
Angkor Wat (sunset), Ta Prohm Kel



Day 5 (22-11-2008)
------------------------
[Morning]
Banteay Srei (small size, excellence, fine carving)
Kbal Spean (river of a thousand lingas, need trekking)
+ Banteay Samre (if time permits on the way back)

[Afternoon]
Siem Reap river, Tonle Sap, Phnom Krom (hilltop temple)



Day 6 (23-11-2008)
-----------------------
Phnom Penh - ??? (pending)



Day 7 (24-11-2008)
------------------------
[Morning]
Angkor Wat (sunrise and to study the bas-reliefs)
Western Baray (by boat trip, swimming?)



[Afternoon]
The Roluos group (Bakong, Preah Ko, perhaps also Lolei)



Day 8 (25-11-2008)
------------------------
Pack and ready to go home

Depart from Siem Reap  Tue, 25 Nov, 14:40

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: waiyan on November 05, 2008, 06:52:11 pm

Need to check out good places for dining and buying souvenirs, watching aspara dance/cultural performance, etc.

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on November 30, 2008, 06:51:13 pm
haiya, we forgot the pretend play gaming session at Angkor for photograph...(oops) [:P]
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on December 01, 2008, 11:22:21 am

[quote user="c mun"]haiya, we forgot the pretend play gaming session at Angkor for photograph...(oops) [:P][/quote]



cmun, have you heard of Photoshop? [hmmhmm]

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on December 04, 2008, 07:41:56 am
[quote user="jack208"]

[quote user="c mun"]haiya, we forgot the pretend play gaming session at Angkor for photograph...(oops) [:P][/quote]



cmun, have you heard of Photoshop? [hmmhmm]



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Yes,yes, create a scene of us playing the most 'in' of all games and get all others envious of us! [;)]

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: ayheng on December 04, 2008, 09:04:25 am
[quote user="c mun"][quote user="jack208"]

[quote user="c mun"]haiya, we forgot the pretend play gaming session at Angkor for photograph...(oops) [:P][/quote]



cmun, have you heard of Photoshop? [hmmhmm]



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Yes,yes, create a scene of us playing the most 'in' of all games and get all others envious of us! [;)]



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hehe, i'll like to see that!

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on December 08, 2008, 07:44:46 pm

AS I was listing down the places we visited - in preparation to blog - I'm amazed that we've covered 33 visits!!! Here we go....





  1. South Gate of Angkor Thom


  2. Bayon


  3. Terrace of Elephants


  4. Terrace of Leper King


  5. Prasat Suor Prat


  6. Tep Pranam


  7. Preah Palilay


  8. Royal Palace


  9. Phimeanakas


  10. Baphuon


  11. Angkor Wat - sunrise & sunset


  12. Victory Gate of Angkor Thom


  13. Chau say Tevoda


  14. Thommanon (where shrapnel auditioned for Ringu Part 4)


  15. Ta Keo


  16. Ta Prohm


  17. Banteay Kdei


  18. Terrace of Srah Srang (where "you made me cry")


  19. Prasat Kravan


  20. Pre Rup


  21. East Mebon


  22. Ta Som


  23. Neak Pean


  24. Baksei Chamkrong


  25. Phnom Bakheng (sunset)


  26. Preah Ko


  27. Bakong


  28. Lolei


  29. Preah Khan


  30. Banteay Srei


  31. Kbal Spean


  32. Kompong Phluk (Tonle Sap)


  33. Phnom Krom
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on December 18, 2008, 07:07:10 am

Blog of Day Zero 18/11/08 at Angkor/Siem Reap is now published.



Bog for Day One 19/11/08





Blog for Day Two 20/11/08 - coming soon





Warning: It's a loooong post. [:P]



I think you'll learn something about Siem Reap from the blog. Other days coming soon....



Photos Gallery





[fiesta]

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: c mun on December 22, 2008, 07:22:54 pm
Wow, so much effort put in to sort out the pics! Well done! Browsing through the pics , I felt like Angelina Jolie raiding those 'tombs' . Wish for another trip like this again... Borobodur 2009-here we come! [;)]
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: ayheng on December 28, 2008, 03:55:56 pm
Finally got to enjoy this report, (at the expense of writing boardgame sess reps) but it's only day 0! Where's the rest? [:)] more! more!
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on December 28, 2008, 04:11:00 pm

hehe... patience [:)] Our first point-of-visit ie South Gate of Angkor Thom blog is here
http://www.jack208.com/2008/12/angkor-08-day-one-191108-south-gate-of.html



Next to go up will be the first temple we visited ie The Bayon. Stay tune...



p/s I think by the time I finished (we did 30+ temples/locations), can turn those blogs into a book liao... hehe

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: ayheng on December 29, 2008, 04:46:02 am
yes, yes, make it into a book, sell the ebook online as a guide to Angkor Wat, make loads of money to buy boardgames!
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: ayheng on December 29, 2008, 03:15:06 pm
Nice description on the Angkor Thom Devas and Asuras. Feels like I'm there already!
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on January 27, 2009, 12:31:46 am

Three more places updated to my Angkor 08 blog (though all of them were still from Day One [:(])





More coming... [:)]

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: ayheng on January 27, 2009, 02:10:34 am
Another big thumbs [thumbsup] for another big post! I especially like the pics of the reflected Bayon on the flooded plains. The water have to be very still to get a perfect shot.
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: jack208 on January 28, 2009, 01:33:06 pm

Last few visits for Day One now blogged and updated





Blog for Day Two 20/11/08 - coming soon - covering sunrise at Angkor Wat, Victory Gate and the Small Tour Circuit of Angkor Thom. [:)]



But first, let's get some sessrep uploaded - Imperial, Le Havre and Wealth of Nations...

Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: ayheng on January 28, 2009, 03:04:33 pm
Wah cool! waiting with bated breath...
Title: Angkor Wat retreat?
Post by: shrapnel on February 05, 2009, 02:41:12 pm
I think I might be able to relate to this new game Bakong :P