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Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on May 16, 2007, 02:56:59 pm
Dear All,

While waiting for GameCon2 or mini-GameCon to materialize, why not put our heads together to find a suitable venue and organize another Euro Games Retreat for 2007.

I am currently looking at the June 8-9 weekend in Genting Highlands (which coincides with the International Jazz Festival) to offer some alternatives to family members to join group but are not into Euro-gaming. It could also offer a good break between gaming in the daytime and partying to Jazz in the evening.

Any other alternatives?
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on June 09, 2007, 09:59:30 pm
2007 Euro Game Retreat will be held at the same venue - Awana - due the great value and experience last year.



Timing wise, it is scheduled for either end October or early November, as this allows participants first look at the 2007 Essen releases - something we didn't do last year as it was held before Essen.



We filled up 16 places last year, mostly with infrequent gamers who took the opportunity to enjoy a weekend of gaming. This year, we expect to fill up 24 seats in view of a fairly large contingent expected from Singapore gamers.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on June 10, 2007, 05:19:24 pm
[quote user="macedwin"]2007 Euro Game Retreat will be held at the same venue - Awana - due the great value and experience last year.



Timing wise, it is scheduled for either end October or early November, as this allows participants first look at the 2007 Essen releases - something we didn't do last year as it was held before Essen.



We filled up 16 places last year, mostly with infrequent gamers who took the opportunity to enjoy a weekend of gaming. This year, we expect to fill up 24 seats in view of a fairly large contingent expected from Singapore gamers.[/quote]

if the Singaporeans are coming, how about increasing the whole lot to 50 slots?

Thanks for the heads up, will now commence boardgame lamination......err.....preservation measures.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on June 10, 2007, 08:44:48 pm
1. don't think we can fill up 50 slots.



2. our experience from last year shows that regular gamers are not interested to attend as they game regularly, and don't want to pay the money (was rm200 last year for 1 night accommodation + buffet lunch, dinner + breakfast).



3. the people that eventually attended were interested, but infrequent gamers who saw it as a good opportunity to learn/play many games in 2 days. most of them were also couples.



4. we may not even fill 24 but i certainly believe we will fill up more than the 16 last year.



5. from an admin point of view, 50 would not be manageable. we play in tables of 4 so we need exact numbers - 16, 20 or 24.



6. format will be graded games from table 1 - table x. we expect the best players to move up to table 1 and vice versa, so table 1 will have the "tougher" games, while table x will have the more social games.



7. this format is great as top 2 + bottom 2 change tables in the next round, ensuring that almost everyone meets/plays with everyone else.



8. since we played all the old favorites last year, we should keep the event fresh by playing new games. this also allows people to learn many new games in 2 days!



9. no games over 2 hours and no wargames!



preliminary list:

-------------------

1. shear panic.

2. blue moon city.

3. die saulen der erde.

4. kabale um hiebe.

5. take stock.

6. lifeboats.

7. mission red planet.

8. etc.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on June 10, 2007, 11:25:09 pm
[quote user="macedwin"]



9. no games over 2 hours and no wargames! [/quote]

YAY!!! Tell them to leave their TI:3 sets at home.
and ASL kits, etc

PS: I thought BMC was an old game?
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: LoStBoYz on June 11, 2007, 03:55:32 am
[quote user="rhyen"]
PS: I thought BMC was an old game?
[/quote]

Blue Moon City is a new game la. Blue Moon the Card game is old. BMC theme is based on the card game. Most of the artwork in BMC is from the card game too. The Card game talks about the big war between species, whereas BMC is after the events in Blue Moon where everyone is at peace and they come together to rebuild the City.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on June 11, 2007, 03:38:31 pm
[quote user="LoStBoYz"][quote user="rhyen"]
PS: I thought BMC was an old game?
[/quote]

Blue Moon City is a new game la. Blue Moon the Card game is old. BMC theme is based on the card game. Most of the artwork in BMC is from the card game too. The Card game talks about the big war between species, whereas BMC is after the events in Blue Moon where everyone is at peace and they come together to rebuild the City.
[/quote]

Someone please bring along Blue Moon the card game, I want to see it and play it [:D]
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: ayheng on June 11, 2007, 05:07:43 pm
being able to play essen games is a bonus... but judging by last year's experience, we need to have a few people on hand who can teach the games properly...
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on June 12, 2007, 08:11:11 am
1. agree w ayheng - the real challenge is having enough people to teach others. even with 16 people last year this was tough, as every table played a different game! Any ideas?



2. err, you are free to bring your ti3, 18xx, dune, etc as the schedule leaves sat night free for your own mega game, or drive up to genting for the other kind of gaming!



3. just to clarify, the 2007 essen games will be on display and demo, but not in the series of games played.



4. since this is a euro game retreat, we play mostly, if not only, euro games...



Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on June 13, 2007, 04:45:44 pm

[quote user="macedwin"]1. agree w ayheng - the real challenge is having enough people to teach others. even with 16 people last year this was tough, as every table played a different game! Any ideas? [/quote]



maybe budget 15 minutes briefing sessions before each game starts OR



have volunteers who managed each table and are well briefed on the rules and rulings (those volunteers can also help document the gameplay and create a game log for people interested in analysing the games at their own leisure, they don't play so have to come up with some other incentives for them to choose this role) OR



Just dumb down the games...

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on June 14, 2007, 07:20:22 am
setting aside time to teach games was not the problem. the problem was we had several occassions when those who were teaching the games on other tables, themselves had to learn the game on their table, so this delayed the briefing substantially...



ha2, good idea re volunteers - though i doubt if anyone would be keen to go all the way there and not play! instead, just teach and log???



i am thinking of video taping someone teaching all the games! this way, all we do is watch a video clip before each game, and then play!!!
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: aycee on June 14, 2007, 08:54:40 am
Volunteers will need some form of incentive mah - free lodgings etc? If ada volunteers.

We thoughts rhyen has a recording of jack208 teaching? But that was for Werewolf only we thinks. Any more?
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: ayheng on June 14, 2007, 11:23:04 am

well, why don't we get some confirmed volunteer-attendees, then compile a list of game which rules they have to learn to teach. then we can have a meeting at mages cafe to make sure everyone understand the same version of rules.



since 1 table = 4 person, we have to have the total number of attendees divided by 4 number of volunteers. and rope in a few more extras in case of emergencies.

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: LoStBoYz on June 14, 2007, 12:14:45 pm
Just bring our 18xx games lah. Everyone that posts here all know how to play. Furthermore newbies will take them like 6+ hours to play a game, that will remove the need to have many games in many sessions. 2 games of 18xx with newbies = 12+ hours. Just nice.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: jack208 on June 14, 2007, 04:11:16 pm

[quote user="LoStBoYz"]Just bring our 18xx games lah. Everyone that posts here all know how to play. Furthermore newbies will take them like 6+ hours to play a game, that will remove the need to have many games in many sessions. 2 games of 18xx with newbies = 12+ hours. Just nice.
[/quote]



This is a splendid idea! I support [y]

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: dave on June 14, 2007, 07:08:17 pm

[quote user="LoStBoYz"]Just bring our 18xx games lah. Everyone that posts here all know how to play. Furthermore newbies will take them like 6+ hours to play a game, that will remove the need to have many games in many sessions. 2 games of 18xx with newbies = 12+ hours. Just nice.
[/quote]



I post here and I don't know how to play 18xx....[:P]

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: LoStBoYz on June 14, 2007, 07:43:32 pm
[quote user="dave"]

I post here and I don't know how to play 18xx....[:P]

[/quote]

NEWBIE ALERT!!!!!
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on June 14, 2007, 07:59:22 pm
i post here and i don't want to know how to play 18xx... hehe
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on June 26, 2007, 04:45:29 pm
[quote user="macedwin"]i post here and i don't want to know how to play 18xx... hehe[/quote]

time to lock you up in the room with jeff and the OTK gang for 12 hours.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: jack208 on June 26, 2007, 05:46:50 pm

[quote user="rhyen"][quote user="macedwin"]i post here and i don't want to know how to play 18xx... hehe[/quote]

time to lock you up in the room with jeff and the OTK gang for 12 hours.
[/quote]



Hmm... not so sure if it's a good idea. We may end up playing Formula De for 12 hours!! [eyespopped]

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on June 26, 2007, 06:49:27 pm
[quote user="jack208"]

[quote user="rhyen"][quote user="macedwin"]i post here and i don't want to know how to play 18xx... hehe[/quote]

time to lock you up in the room with jeff and the OTK gang for 12 hours.
[/quote]



Hmm... not so sure if it's a good idea. We may end up playing Formula De for 12 hours!! [eyespopped]

[/quote]

just make sure that game stays outside the room....
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on June 26, 2007, 07:50:46 pm
no, no... play blokus for 12 hours!!!
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on June 28, 2007, 07:31:17 pm
[quote user="macedwin"]no, no... play blokus for 12 hours!!![/quote]

18xx...assimilate or perish [plasmagun]
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: mv78 on July 18, 2007, 01:49:46 pm
i think we should ask for someone to explain the rules of the game and then record it. that is very practical and not time consuming for newbies because if we ask newbies to read the rules then they might get confuse and lost. after the record is done, i suggest we put it in this forum and we compile all the recorded game rule so that the community of this forum can learn as many games as possible in a short time.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on August 23, 2007, 04:29:15 pm
Is this happening?
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: LoStBoYz on August 23, 2007, 05:31:27 pm
You think?
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: aanemesis on August 23, 2007, 06:11:04 pm
Denken Sie, was?
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on August 23, 2007, 08:03:55 pm
Objective is to have this after Essen so that those who didn't get the chance to visit can get a first hand look at all the top new releases!



Tentative date is the 1st weekend of November - ie. 3rd & 4th. Schedule will be the same. Saturday: 9.00am - 6.00pm. Lunch + Dinner. Free time. Sunday: Breakfast. 9.00am - 1.00pm.



"Not a competition", but a chance to play as many games as possible!

Saturday:

9.00 - 10.00 (1 hour game).

10.00 - 11.30 (1.5 hour game).

11.30 - 12.30 (2 hour game).

1.30 - 2.30 (1 hour game).

2.30 - 4.00 (1.5 hour game).

4.00 - 6.00 (2 hour game).



Sunday:

9.00 - 10.00 (1 hour game).

10.00 - 11.30 (1.5 hour game).



Total of 8 games each! As last year, games will be graded according to tables. After each game, top 2 will get promoted and bottom 2 will get relegated. This ensures maxium player rotation and interaction.



If we fill 4 tables (16 pax), a total of 32 different games will be in play! We expect to fill 5 tables this year as we expect some Singaporeans to attend. That makes it 40 different games in play!



As a rule, all new games will be played - ie. none of the games played last year will be repeated.



Countdown!!!
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: ayheng on August 23, 2007, 08:09:41 pm
Great!!! Good Luck to the rules reader for the 40 new games!!!
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on August 24, 2007, 04:48:20 am

I'm so in for the eurogame retreat!



 

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on August 24, 2007, 04:51:32 am
Ah, so! Good idea to play only new Essen games. Will copies of the new Essen games be available for sale at the retreat as well?
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on August 24, 2007, 04:53:04 am
[quote user="wolfx"]

I'm so in for the eurogame retreat!



 

[/quote]

LOL! Just make sure it is held in an earthquake-free zone.[;)]
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on August 24, 2007, 06:23:41 am
[quote user="Champion Eternal"]Ah, so! Good idea to play only new Essen games. Will copies of the new Essen games be available for sale at the retreat as well?
[/quote]

I highly doubt it unless those ppl who went to Essen were hauling back truckloads of stuff.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: ayheng on August 24, 2007, 07:07:30 am

[quote user="wolfx"][quote user="Champion Eternal"]Ah, so! Good idea to play only new Essen games. Will copies of the new Essen games be available for sale at the retreat as well?
[/quote]

I highly doubt it unless those ppl who went to Essen were hauling back truckloads of stuff.
[/quote]



Looking at the organiser's resume, I find it very easy to believe that he can pull it off.

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on August 24, 2007, 08:28:24 am
[quote user="ayheng"]

[quote user="wolfx"][quote user="Champion Eternal"]Ah, so! Good idea to play only new Essen games. Will copies of the new Essen games be available for sale at the retreat as well?
[/quote]

I highly doubt it unless those ppl who went to Essen were hauling back truckloads of stuff.
[/quote]



Looking at the organiser's resume, I find it very easy to believe that he can pull it off.

[/quote]

That's good then. So we can get our LE Caylus ar? =D
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: jackoverthehill on August 24, 2007, 09:02:48 am
can tumpang games ah ?

wahhh i also want the limited edition
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on August 24, 2007, 11:23:46 am
[quote user="wolfx"][quote user="Champion Eternal"]Ah, so! Good idea to play only new Essen games. Will copies of the new Essen games be available for sale at the retreat as well?
[/quote]

I highly doubt it unless those ppl who went to Essen were hauling back truckloads of stuff.
[/quote]

My young Padawan, Macedwin will be bringing back lots of stuff from Essen, as he has done for the past few years.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on August 24, 2007, 12:07:30 pm
Ahhh.....i am humbled by his greatness. Forgive my n00bness. All heil macedwin. [humping]
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on August 24, 2007, 05:47:32 pm
[quote user="ayheng"]Great!!! Good Luck to the rules reader for the 40 new games!!!
[/quote]

I nominate Heng (ardent rule reader) and CE (since you having eurogame burnout, I presume you would be benign to translate all those german rules, explain them to us and not play!!! *cackle*)
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on August 24, 2007, 07:48:00 pm
last year we air freighted 40 cartons back to kl one day after essen... you can find all the titles of last year's haul under "spiel 06 games" at http://web.mac.com/imagine_newszine.



havng said that, we made a mistake last year as we concentrated too much on the large publishers (zoch, kosmos, amigospiele, etc) and not the small, independant publishers - many of whom have not had their game distributed outside of essen, or picked up by a publisher for re-printing.



this year, we will do the business pre-essen with the big publishers, and concentrate on the small ones during the 4 days - hopefully, this will enable us to get our hands on some stuff that will never be seen after essen!



we try most games before we buy, so we have at least a feel whether our gamers will like it or not. fortunately, my own preferences take a back seat here! this means that with some working knowledge of the game + 1 week plus to read the rules, we should be ready for awana!



of course, i will be requesting for volunteers to teach many games, so if you like to be the first to check out the new stuff, please volunteer!
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on August 25, 2007, 02:36:08 am
[quote user="macedwin"]last year we air freighted 40 cartons back to kl one day after essen... you can find all the titles of last year's haul under "spiel 06 games" at http://web.mac.com/imagine_newszine.



havng said that, we made a mistake last year as we concentrated too much on the large publishers (zoch, kosmos, amigospiele, etc) and not the small, independant publishers - many of whom have not had their game distributed outside of essen, or picked up by a publisher for re-printing.



this year, we will do the business pre-essen with the big publishers, and concentrate on the small ones during the 4 days - hopefully, this will enable us to get our hands on some stuff that will never be seen after essen!



we try most games before we buy, so we have at least a feel whether our gamers will like it or not. fortunately, my own preferences take a back seat here! this means that with some working knowledge of the game + 1 week plus to read the rules, we should be ready for awana!



of course, i will be requesting for volunteers to teach many games, so if you like to be the first to check out the new stuff, please volunteer![/quote]

okay, just make sure the rules are published in english.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on August 25, 2007, 06:27:41 am
mostly in german! but hey, i've seen you teach games in multiple languages, so i'm sure you'll have no problems with german ;-p
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on August 25, 2007, 05:37:52 pm
[quote user="macedwin"]mostly in german! but hey, i've seen you teach games in multiple languages, so i'm sure you'll have no problems with german ;-p[/quote]

I did not pick up European language in university, was too busy doing Japanese and Korean (most of which I have lost in translation).
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: jack208 on October 26, 2007, 10:43:29 am
HOT GAMES (update from MacEd)
------------------------------------
This year, we shipped out 58 boxes from Essen compared to 40 last year, and they are scheduled to arrive in KLIA this weekend. Watch out for the final announcement of the 2007 Euro Gaming Retreat, where you will get to play all the latest and hottest games from this year!
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on October 26, 2007, 11:35:02 am
Just to clarify - the 'boxes' are not game boxes, they are packing boxes. Each box contains about 8-12 games or more, depending on sizes.[:)][8]
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on October 26, 2007, 12:00:49 pm
[quote user="jack208"]HOT GAMES (update from MacEd)
------------------------------------
This year, we shipped out 58 boxes from Essen compared to 40 last year, and they are scheduled to arrive in KLIA this weekend. Watch out for the final announcement of the 2007 Euro Gaming Retreat, where you will get to play all the latest and hottest games from this year![/quote]

*Drools in a stupor*
Wake up, rhyen, wake up!
Sorry Sir, victim is incapacitated by announcement of too many games to play...
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on October 26, 2007, 09:29:52 pm
Anyone pre-ordered games from Essen 07?
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on October 26, 2007, 09:30:55 pm
[quote user="rhyen"][quote user="jack208"]HOT GAMES (update from MacEd)
------------------------------------
This year, we shipped out 58 boxes from Essen compared to 40 last year, and they are scheduled to arrive in KLIA this weekend. Watch out for the final announcement of the 2007 Euro Gaming Retreat, where you will get to play all the latest and hottest games from this year![/quote]

*Drools in a stupor*
Wake up, rhyen, wake up!
Sorry Sir, victim is incapacitated by announcement of too many games to play...
[/quote]

Wipe your saliva off yer face first.[yawn]
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on October 28, 2007, 08:04:57 am
As usual, I had a massive list of Essen pre-orders, with the only conspicuous absence being AOS stuff (guess you have all the AOS stuff already from last year?)...



Here are some of the pre-orders fyi:

- Caylus Premium (at EUR65 a piece, you guys are cuckoo!).

- QMG Master Print Edition: set of 4 games (only EUR100 by contast) - Leonardo da Vinci, Yspahan, El Capitan and Demetra.

- Neuroshima Hex.

- Through the Ages (again).

- Galaxy Trucker.

- Bang! The Bullet!.

- Antler Island.

- Talisman.

- Army of Frogs.

- Mr Jack XP.

- Cash & Guns: Yakuzas.

- Auf Achse.

- Brass.

- Mordred.

- Beppe der Bock.

- Napolean's Truimph.

- Tichu.

- & tons of meeples in different colors for the opening of one of our retailers new cafe in KK!



Unfortunately, I could not fulfill one pre-order for AOS NY/Iraq as Winsome Games left for home due to unforseen circumstances after 12noon on the first day, so by the time I got to their booth, it was empty!



Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on October 28, 2007, 10:07:44 am
[quote user="macedwin"]As usual, I had a massive list of Essen pre-orders, with the only conspicuous absence being AOS stuff (guess you have all the AOS stuff already from last year?)...



Here are some of the pre-orders fyi:

- Caylus Premium (at EUR65 a piece, you guys are cuckoo!).

- QMG Master Print Edition: set of 4 games (only EUR100 by contast) - Leonardo da Vinci, Yspahan, El Capitan and Demetra.

- Neuroshima Hex.

- Through the Ages (again).

- Galaxy Trucker.

- Bang! The Bullet!.

- Antler Island.

- Talisman.

- Army of Frogs.

- Mr Jack XP.

- Cash & Guns: Yakuzas.

- Auf Achse.

- Brass.

- Mordred.

- Beppe der Bock.

- Napolean's Truimph.

- Tichu.

- & tons of meeples in different colors for the opening of one of our retailers new cafe in KK!



Unfortunately, I could not fulfill one pre-order for AOS NY/Iraq as Winsome Games left for home due to unforseen circumstances after 12noon on the first day, so by the time I got to their booth, it was empty![/quote]

Fantastic!!! Let us know when they clear customs and arrive...[yeahyeah]
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on October 30, 2007, 11:03:52 am
[quote user="macedwin"]As usual, I had a massive list of Essen pre-orders, with the only conspicuous absence being AOS stuff (guess you have all the AOS stuff already from last year?)...



Here are some of the pre-orders fyi:

- Caylus Premium (at EUR65 a piece, you guys are cuckoo!).

- QMG Master Print Edition: set of 4 games (only EUR100 by contast) - Leonardo da Vinci, Yspahan, El Capitan and Demetra.

- Neuroshima Hex.

- Through the Ages (again).

- Galaxy Trucker.

- Bang! The Bullet!.

- Antler Island.

- Talisman.

- Army of Frogs.

- Mr Jack XP.

- Cash & Guns: Yakuzas.

- Auf Achse.

- Brass.

- Mordred.

- Beppe der Bock.

- Napolean's Truimph.

- Tichu.

- & tons of meeples in different colors for the opening of one of our retailers new cafe in KK!



Unfortunately, I could not fulfill one pre-order for AOS NY/Iraq as Winsome Games left for home due to unforseen circumstances after 12noon on the first day, so by the time I got to their booth, it was empty![/quote]

PM the quotation for Bang the Bullet, Mr Jack XP
and Caylus Premium just in case you have any extra sets leftover

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on October 30, 2007, 01:34:50 pm
Hengy - r u getting TTA?
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: ayheng on October 30, 2007, 02:15:00 pm

[quote user="Champion Eternal"]Hengy - r u getting TTA?
[/quote]



nope, i tot it was still being reprinted, u know, the one with better components???

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on October 30, 2007, 02:24:12 pm
[quote user="ayheng"]

[quote user="Champion Eternal"]Hengy - r u getting TTA?
[/quote]



nope, i tot it was still being reprinted, u know, the one with better components???

[/quote]

My original had quite good components, but I think the cards should be bigger: standard-sized linen - feel cards would be good.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on October 30, 2007, 08:08:51 pm
The only reason we haven't announced the dates is because our preferred venue, Awana Golf & Country Club, is not available for the first two weekends of November.



After endless pleading, they now tell me they can possibly accommodate us on 24-25 November, and will confirm by today (Wednesday).



I'm keeping my fingers crossed as this venue is superb in terms of tea breaks, lunch, dinner, and the night gaming atmosphere - literally in the clouds!



Last year, we did it for Rm200 nett, everything in, including twin share. So far, they have not quoted me anything less than Rm200, so I guess its going to cost more. BUT, its still far cheaper than the quotes I'm getting from Avillion (PD), Shangri-La (Putrajaya) and Equatorial (Cyberjaya).



Also, for those who want to gamble at the casino, its nearby (though I fail to see why someone would need to go there with the number of gambling games available!).



Will post another update tomorrow!
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on October 31, 2007, 06:11:43 pm
It’s back! Bigger & better! The 2007 Euro Game Retreat will be held on 24-25 November (Saturday-Sunday), once again at the Awana Golf & Country Club.



Unfortunately, the prices have shot up (compared to last year), so to make up for the higher prices, we will be offering various Retreat + Game bundles.



We only have 14 seats (since Shaun & I are taking 2 seats), and for the first time, we are opening the retreat to gamers from Singapore, so please confirm your seat asap!



Here is the program:

24 November (Saturday)

----------------------------

Registration: 830am - 900am.

Euro games: 900am - 700pm.

- 5 games (1hr x 1; 1.5hrs x 3; 2hrs x 1).

- Morning tea break with snacks,

- Buffet lunch.

- Buffet dinner.

Free time: 700pm onwards.



25 November (Sunday)

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- Buffet breakfast.

Euro games: 900am - 100pm.

- 2 games (1hr x 1, 2hrs, x 1).

- Morning tea break with snacks.



28 Euro Games (2006 & 2007 new releases)!

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2006 - Imperial, Saulen Der Erde, Siena, Kampf um Rom, Arkadia, Blue Moon City, Hamelyn, Haselwurz & Barenklau, Mission Red Planet, Salamanca, Space Dealer, Die Dolmengotter, Can't Stop, John Silver.



2007 - Agricola, Brass, Canal Mania, Container, Cuba, King of Siam, Liebe & Intrige, Darjeeling, Chang Cheng, Gangster, Antler Island, Zooloretto, Hamburgum, Uptown.



Format

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4 players x 4 tables.

Each participant will play 7 games.

Random allocation to tables 1, 2, 3 & 4.

Winner & runner-up move “up”; 3rd & 4th move “down”.

Overall prize for winner (lowest total finish positions).



Bundle prices

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[A] RM315 + free game worth up to RM55 (choose from John Silver, No Merci, Control Nut, Werewolves of Miller’s Hollow, Save Dr Lucky, Unexploded Cow).



RM340 + free game worth up to RM99 (choose from Battleline, MagBlast, Nacho Incident, Monkeys on the Moon, Balloon Cup).



[C] RM385 + free game worth up to RM185 (choose from Leornardo, Notre Dame, Midgard, Blue Moon City, That's Life, Winner's Circle, Bootleggers).



[D] RM400 + free game worth up to RM219 (choose from Stonehenge, Khet, Silk Road, Arkadia, Siena, Antike, Imperial).



[E] RM420 + free game worth up to RM259 (choose from Bonaparte at Marengo, Marvel Heroes, Conquest of the Empire, Age of Empire III, Command & Colors: Ancients, Tempus, Viktory II, Doom).



[F] RM455 + free game worth up to RM329 (Choose from Descent: Journeys in the Dark, Tide of Iron, AT-43, Combat Commander: Europe).



TO BOOK YOUR SEAT:

Just email imagine.games@mac.com stating your bundle.

Bookings cannot be cancelled, but you may send someone in your place.



See you among the clouds, and don’t forget to bring your favorite long game to play at night!
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on October 31, 2007, 09:08:47 pm
w00ts. Count me in! But dunno what to buy yet. <_<
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: ayheng on November 01, 2007, 04:10:34 am
thank you for small miracles, 24th Nov confirm is my off-saturday and I can join! but like wolfx, dunno what to buy oso...
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on November 01, 2007, 04:21:11 am
hehe, someone above wants you guys to attend!!!

great!



seats available as at 8.24am, 1 nov= 11!!!

- me

- shaun

- wolfx

- ayheng

- jfei
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on November 01, 2007, 10:40:58 am

Need...more A.S.H. (Available, Single and Hot) girls. Ayheng, bring your girlfriend's friends. [6]



For 7:30pm onwards freetime, I suggest the following programme:



8:00pm: After dinner.... TI3.
12:00am: Visit Uncle Lim, check up on him.
1:00am: Go casino. Try to get uncles to play Gang of Four.
3:00am: Go play play at indoor theme park.
4:00am: Supper at mamak.
5:00am: Tidor.
8:00am: Start programme for 2nd day.



[:D]

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: ayheng on November 01, 2007, 11:13:27 am
[quote user="wolfx"]

Need...more A.S.H. (Available, Single and Hot) girls. Ayheng, bring your girlfriend's friends. [6]



For 7:30pm onwards freetime, I suggest the following programme:



8:00pm: After dinner.... TI3.
12:00am: Visit Uncle Lim, check up on him.
1:00am: Go casino. Try to get uncles to play Gang of Four.
3:00am: Go play play at indoor theme park.
4:00am: Supper at mamak.
5:00am: Tidor.
8:00am: Start programme for 2nd day.



[:D]



[/quote]



dude, i'm not bringing my fiancee's friends on account of the many buayas here on OTK. But i'll invite my guy-friends for more TI3 goodness, ok?



wah, so fast already plan after-gaming gaming already. This slot I propose long game like 1870 or 18GL. by the time finish should be morning already!

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on November 01, 2007, 01:00:27 pm
[quote user="ayheng"][quote user="wolfx"]

Need...more A.S.H. (Available, Single and Hot) girls. Ayheng, bring your girlfriend's friends. [6]



For 7:30pm onwards freetime, I suggest the following programme:



8:00pm: After dinner.... TI3.
12:00am: Visit Uncle Lim, check up on him.
1:00am: Go casino. Try to get uncles to play Gang of Four.
3:00am: Go play play at indoor theme park.
4:00am: Supper at mamak.
5:00am: Tidor.
8:00am: Start programme for 2nd day.



[:D]



[/quote]



dude, i'm not bringing my fiancee's friends on account of the many buayas here on OTK. But i'll invite my guy-friends for more TI3 goodness, ok?



wah, so fast already plan after-gaming gaming already. This slot I propose long game like 1870 or 18GL. by the time finish should be morning already!



[/quote]



 



Yer....some people gonna get married but don't want your "fellow men" to get married as well. Typical "euro gamer mentality". Get to the goal but deny others from reaching it. [:p] So kedekuts one. We need females!



18GL whole night away? Oh dear....like that me and aycee (if he is coming) go watch cabaret in Genting also better.

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on November 01, 2007, 01:39:09 pm
[quote user="wolfx"]

Need...more A.S.H. (Available, Single and Hot) girls. Ayheng, bring your girlfriend's friends. [6]



For 7:30pm onwards freetime, I suggest the following programme:





[:D]

[/quote]

There's plenty of A.S.H. girls in the casino. All you need is C.A.S.H. (Currency Avaiilable: Sure Hit).


Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on November 01, 2007, 05:01:48 pm
Last year, we had 1/3 female gamers...



This year, we will send runners to the casino to spread the word that several railroad tycoons, castle builders and Puerto Rican ambassadors are gathering at Awana - this should send the A.S.H. girls running down in no time!
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: jack208 on November 01, 2007, 07:07:05 pm

This doesn't look at all bery goo for me. [:(] Anytime in Nov doesn't look like good dates to me.... Strong is, The Dark side.... [darklord] but still hope springs eternal... who knows. hehe



ayheng: u kena con la... bringing your guy-frens instead. Now someone rubbing his hands in glee!! [6] (El Bimbo song starts playing in the background)



maced: make sure those runners dun go with too much cash wor.. else no A.S.H gals and runners oso disappear!!



ayheng: 18GL cannot play till morning la. Must get 1870 and play full rules... that one mebbe 8am just finished. Nice to continue with breakfast. [ohyeah]



wolfx: why bother to go up to casino? Just bring your Manila and play with real money la!!

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on November 01, 2007, 07:42:24 pm
WHAAAT??? Pilot #1 cannot make it to Retreat??? Cannot lah! Tradition mah... Pilot #1 must be there lah...



Wey, you dun bullshit me ok, Brunei everybody tidur from Friday 12noon and only wake up on Monday morning! Air Asia fly off 6pm from Brunei, arrive Friday night so just nice for you to have good night rest and drive to Awana on Saturday morning! Nobody working in Brunei on weekend lah!



So please come ah... anyway, after you sapu the casino on Saturday night, you dun need to work anymore lah... make sure you hire some A.S.H. gals to distract the dealer! Unless they use guys, then bring WOLFX & AYHENG (A.S.H. guys)!
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: aycee on November 02, 2007, 09:07:10 am
We can't make it as we'll be in Singapore. Friend's wedding!
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on November 02, 2007, 09:20:38 am
duh! friend surely has 'big game' on wedding night, so surely will understand if u missing 4 yr own big game?
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on November 02, 2007, 11:15:10 am
[quote user="ayheng"][quote user="wolfx"]

Need...more A.S.H. (Available, Single and Hot) girls. Ayheng, bring your girlfriend's friends. [6]



For 7:30pm onwards freetime, I suggest the following programme:



8:00pm: After dinner.... TI3.
12:00am: Visit Uncle Lim, check up on him.
1:00am: Go casino. Try to get uncles to play Gang of Four.
3:00am: Go play play at indoor theme park.
4:00am: Supper at mamak.
5:00am: Tidor.
8:00am: Start programme for 2nd day.



[:D]



[/quote]



dude, i'm not bringing my fiancee's friends on account of the many buayas here on OTK. But i'll invite my guy-friends for more TI3 goodness, ok?



wah, so fast already plan after-gaming gaming already. This slot I propose long game like 1870 or 18GL. by the time finish should be morning already!

[/quote]

Wolfx: TI:3? I am so not coming.

Hengy: Was hoping that 18EU woud arrive in time for Malaysian debut at the retreat, but I guess I want 1856! 1856! 1856!
Down with TI:3!!!
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on November 02, 2007, 11:17:02 am
[quote user="macedwin"]WHAAAT??? Pilot #1 cannot make it to Retreat??? Cannot lah! Tradition mah... Pilot #1 must be there lah...



Wey, you dun bullshit me ok, Brunei everybody tidur from Friday 12noon and only wake up on Monday morning! Air Asia fly off 6pm from Brunei, arrive Friday night so just nice for you to have good night rest and drive to Awana on Saturday morning! Nobody working in Brunei on weekend lah!



So please come ah... anyway, after you sapu the casino on Saturday night, you dun need to work anymore lah... make sure you hire some A.S.H. gals to distract the dealer! Unless they use guys, then bring WOLFX & AYHENG (A.S.H. guys)![/quote]

His Aeroplane cannot land in Malaysia lah, all roads all jam up on that weekend (school holiday traffic jam rush). Somemore he hasn't purchase his helicopter yet to whirr up to Genting in a hearbeat.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on November 02, 2007, 01:56:10 pm
Just a note to the organizer:
Ask Hengy to open his Caylus LE in a ceremony during the retreat. The marketing motto:
Open it, and they will come.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on November 02, 2007, 03:09:22 pm

[quote user="Champion Eternal"]Just a note to the organizer:
Ask Hengy to open his Caylus LE in a ceremony during the retreat. The marketing motto:
Open it, and they will come.
[/quote]



ayheng opens his zip, and Henry will come. [arghh]



NEEDS MORE ASH GIRLS!

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on November 02, 2007, 03:30:31 pm
Here's what I am going to play during the after dinner session - DUNE!!! Yes, again, cos I played this last year as well!



Anyone joining?
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on November 04, 2007, 12:06:40 pm
[quote user="wolfx"]

[quote user="Champion Eternal"]Just a note to the organizer:
Ask Hengy to open his Caylus LE in a ceremony during the retreat. The marketing motto:
Open it, and they will come.
[/quote]



ayheng opens his zip, and Henry will come. [arghh]



NEEDS MORE ASH GIRLS!

[/quote]

To Wolfx: Please tone it down already, you don't want to know my limits.
If you really want those girls, I can bring them if I am going. Sadly I am not going because of teasers like these.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on November 04, 2007, 01:42:54 pm
[quote user="macedwin"]Here's what I am going to play during the after dinner session - DUNE!!! Yes, again, cos I played this last year as well!



Anyone joining?[/quote]

Wish I could.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on November 04, 2007, 01:46:41 pm
[quote user="rhyen"][quote user="wolfx"]

[quote user="Champion Eternal"]Just a note to the organizer:
Ask Hengy to open his Caylus LE in a ceremony during the retreat. The marketing motto:
Open it, and they will come.
[/quote]



ayheng opens his zip, and Henry will come. [arghh]



NEEDS MORE ASH GIRLS!



[/quote]

To Wolfx: Please tone it down already, you don't want to know my limits.
If you really want those girls, I can bring them if I am going. Sadly I am not going because of teasers like these.
[/quote]



i definately wouldn't wouldn't wanna know your "limits".



[arghh] [arghh] [arghh]

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on November 04, 2007, 01:53:05 pm
[quote user="wolfx"]

i definately wouldn't wouldn't wanna know your "limits".



[arghh] [arghh] [arghh]

[/quote]

2nd warning to WOLFX.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on November 04, 2007, 02:22:40 pm
this sure gives "duel in the dark", come with "9 expansions" a whole new meaning, no?
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on November 05, 2007, 04:05:40 am
[quote user="rhyen"][quote user="wolfx"]

i definately wouldn't wouldn't wanna know your "limits".



[arghh] [arghh] [arghh]



[/quote]

2nd warning to WOLFX.
[/quote]



What? I just acknowledged your 1s warning. What did I do wrong? May all bear witness to PMS (Prehistoric Monster Syndrome) happening.



[arghh]

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: ayheng on November 05, 2007, 04:08:06 am

Haiyar, once again I am disappointed [duh] by BGC folks [8-|], talk big but in the end no [N] support [{] and commitment [|-)] for the eurogame retreat [ip]. For those with other commitments, oklar [A]. But for those who is not going because don't want to spend the money [nono], prepare to face this [machinegun]



FYI, I have received my Caylus Premium Limited Edition (TM). As promised I shall open it, savour it [D] myself and seal it back with mothballs. I doubt if I bring and open it at eurogame retreat, anyone will be enticed to come anyway [bleer].

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on November 05, 2007, 04:09:07 am
[quote user="macedwin"]this sure gives "duel in the dark", come with "9 expansions" a whole new meaning, no?[/quote]

LOL! Reminds me of a Strangers in the Night joke.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on November 05, 2007, 04:11:35 am
[quote user="ayheng"]

Haiyar, once again I am disappointed [duh] by BGC folks [8-|], talk big but in the end no [N] support [{] and commitment [|-)] for the eurogame retreat [ip]. For those with other commitments, oklar [A]. But for those who is not going because don't want to spend the money [nono], prepare to face this [machinegun]



FYI, I have received my Caylus Premium Limited Edition (TM). As promised I shall open it, savour it myself and seal it back with mothballs. I doubt if I bring and open it at eurogame retreat, anyone will be enticed to come anyway.

[/quote]

I told Edwin I would like to go but that weekend I am very busy : wedding and concert. So, tak boleh pergi lah. [:(]
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on November 05, 2007, 04:33:34 am
[quote user="ayheng"]

Haiyar, once again I am disappointed [duh] by BGC folks [8-|], talk big but in the end no [N] support [{] and commitment [|-)] for the eurogame retreat [ip]. For those with other commitments, oklar [A]. But for those who is not going because don't want to spend the money [nono], prepare to face this [machinegun]



FYI, I have received my Caylus Premium Limited Edition (TM). As promised I shall open it, savour it [D] myself and seal it back with mothballs. I doubt if I bring and open it at eurogame retreat, anyone will be enticed to come anyway [bleer].



[/quote]



Yeahler....apa nih. OTK frequenters seem like not coming cept for me and ayheng. Henry? Anyhoo... ayheng, i think if u bring some A.S.H girls , or maybe if shrapnel brings his harem, more will come. And bring your Caylus ler....testplay it! You know the temptation will be too great to resist!

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on November 05, 2007, 04:46:04 am
Edwin - For Wolfx's sake: Miss Canada coming to demo Container or not? If not, Miss Malaysia '07 oso can. If not, Miss Malaysia '06, oso can, if not Miss Chinatown oso , if not , Miss Subang Jaya oso can...etc.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on November 05, 2007, 05:06:29 am

[quote user="Champion Eternal"]Edwin - For Wolfx's sake: Miss Canada coming to demo Container or not? If not, Miss Malaysia '07 oso can. If not, Miss Malaysia '06, oso can, if not Miss Chinatown oso , if not , Miss Subang Jaya oso can...etc.
[/quote]



Oh dear...something tells me if Miss Subang Jaya also not available, edwin will provide Mr. OTK in drag pulak. [shoot2]



But it won't be for my sake ler. I'm already going whurt.

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on November 05, 2007, 09:42:45 am
[quote user="wolfx"]

[quote user="Champion Eternal"]Edwin - For Wolfx's sake: Miss Canada coming to demo Container or not? If not, Miss Malaysia '07 oso can. If not, Miss Malaysia '06, oso can, if not Miss Chinatown oso , if not , Miss Subang Jaya oso can...etc.
[/quote]



Oh dear...something tells me if Miss Subang Jaya also not available, edwin will provide Mr. OTK in drag pulak. [shoot2]



But it won't be for my sake ler. I'm already going whurt.

[/quote]

LOL! Mr OTK is bad enuff, you want him in drag some more! Gaming in OTK will never be the same.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: aycee on November 06, 2007, 07:08:13 am
[quote user="macedwin"]Here's what I am going to play during the after dinner session - DUNE!!! Yes, again, cos I played this last year as well! Anyone joining?[/quote]Dang! Dune is being done! Darn it we're doomed to miss it. Drat.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on November 06, 2007, 09:51:11 am
[quote user="ayheng"]

Haiyar, once again I am disappointed [duh] by BGC folks [8-|], talk big but in the end no [N] support [{] and commitment [|-)] for the eurogame retreat [ip]. For those with other commitments, oklar [A]. But for those who is not going because don't want to spend the money [nono], prepare to face this [machinegun]



FYI, I have received my Caylus Premium Limited Edition (TM). As promised I shall open it, savour it [D] myself and seal it back with mothballs. I doubt if I bring and open it at eurogame retreat, anyone will be enticed to come anyway [bleer].

[/quote]

As I have mentioned earlier, the event just broke my budget AND
I have other things further up my priority list especially with the Causeway Scrabble Challenge so close, I need to beef up my game to do well for team Malaysia, so more studying and less playing for me.

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on November 06, 2007, 11:36:24 am
[quote user="aycee"][quote user="macedwin"]Here's what I am going to play during the after dinner session - DUNE!!! Yes, again, cos I played this last year as well! Anyone joining?[/quote]Dang! Dune is being done! Darn it we're doomed to miss it. Drat.[/quote]

Hehehe...hey we play Dune at Mage sometimes...there will be another day...
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on November 06, 2007, 11:40:10 am
[quote user="rhyen"][quote user="ayheng"]

Haiyar, once again I am disappointed [duh] by BGC folks [8-|], talk big but in the end no [N] support [{] and commitment [|-)] for the eurogame retreat [ip]. For those with other commitments, oklar [A]. But for those who is not going because don't want to spend the money [nono], prepare to face this [machinegun]



FYI, I have received my Caylus Premium Limited Edition (TM). As promised I shall open it, savour it [D] myself and seal it back with mothballs. I doubt if I bring and open it at eurogame retreat, anyone will be enticed to come anyway [bleer].

[/quote]

As I have mentioned earlier, the event just broke my budget AND
I have other things further up my priority list especially with the Causeway Scrabble Challenge so close, I need to beef up my game to do well for team Malaysia, so more studying and less playing for me.

[/quote]

Good luck in the Scrabble - take lots of pics and put up a report here, if admin says it is permissible.


Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on November 06, 2007, 11:52:19 am
[quote user="Champion Eternal"][quote user="rhyen"]

As I have mentioned earlier, the event just broke my budget AND
I have other things further up my priority list especially with the Causeway Scrabble Challenge so close, I need to beef up my game to do well for team Malaysia, so more studying and less playing for me.

[/quote]

Good luck in the Scrabble - take lots of pics and put up a report here, if admin says it is permissible.

[/quote]

Thank you, CE.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on November 06, 2007, 12:53:55 pm
[quote user="rhyen"][quote user="Champion Eternal"][quote user="rhyen"]

As I have mentioned earlier, the event just broke my budget AND
I have other things further up my priority list especially with the Causeway Scrabble Challenge so close, I need to beef up my game to do well for team Malaysia, so more studying and less playing for me.

[/quote]

Good luck in the Scrabble - take lots of pics and put up a report here, if admin says it is permissible.

[/quote]

Thank you, CE.
[/quote]

You're welcome. Hope you win the biggie prize money.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: jack208 on November 06, 2007, 06:29:12 pm

[quote user="Champion Eternal"]
Good luck in the Scrabble - take lots of pics and put up a report here, if admin says it is permissible.
[/quote]



Oh yes I've asked him to blog about his scrabble exploits here but he shyly said he's worried his scrabble report is too boring for you all to read wor. [:P] After all, Scrabble is still a boardgame.

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: aanemesis on November 07, 2007, 03:50:14 am

Wah, lots of chatter while I was away. Been a bit busy going up north & south of the peninsular, busy handling s#&t in the office, then got sick. Now taking time off for a nice relaxing 3 days on the beach starting tomorrow. [ip][8][D]



Wish can join you guys for some boardgaming goodness, but I'm sure once I'm soaking up the sun and seeing A.S.H. human females with little on getting wet and playing in the sand, I'll not be too sad...

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on November 07, 2007, 04:08:59 am
[quote user="aanemesis"]

Wah, lots of chatter while I was away. Been a bit busy going up north & south of the peninsular, busy handling s#&t in the office, then got sick. Now taking time off for a nice relaxing 3 days on the beach starting tomorrow. [ip][8][D]



Wish can join you guys for some boardgaming goodness, but I'm sure once I'm soaking up the sun and seeing A.S.H. human females with little on getting wet and playing in the sand, I'll not be too sad...



[/quote]



Haha...you wish. If the beach is anywhere in Malaysia, you'll probably only get to see



1.) fat sunbathing ang mous
2.) tudung + tshirt + tracksuit combos



[duh]

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: aycee on November 07, 2007, 07:53:32 am
[quote user="wolfx"]Haha...you wish. If the beach is anywhere in Malaysia, you'll probably only get to see

1.) fat sunbathing ang mous
2.) tudung + tshirt + tracksuit combos



[duh]

[/quote]Oh! So true.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on November 07, 2007, 09:19:00 am
[quote user="aycee"][quote user="wolfx"]Haha...you wish. If the beach is anywhere in Malaysia, you'll probably only get to see

1.) fat sunbathing ang mous
2.) tudung + tshirt + tracksuit combos



[duh]

[/quote]Oh! So true.[/quote]

On the east coast, you probably can't even see any female flesh anywhere.

Btw, doesn't ainul have a family and didn't his wife train their kids to make sure that daddy's optic radar isn't pointing in the wrong direction?
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on November 07, 2007, 09:20:39 am
[quote user="jack208"]

[quote user="Champion Eternal"]
Good luck in the Scrabble - take lots of pics and put up a report here, if admin says it is permissible.
[/quote]



Oh yes I've asked him to blog about his scrabble exploits here but he shyly said he's worried his scrabble report is too boring for you all to read wor. [:P] After all, Scrabble is still a boardgame.

[/quote]

Was thinking about it, will probably submit my LBH Cup runner-up finish here in December after I located all my scoresheets from that tournament.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: aanemesis on November 07, 2007, 12:40:07 pm
[quote user="wolfx"]

Haha...you wish. If the beach is anywhere in Malaysia, you'll probably only get to see



1.) fat sunbathing ang mous
2.) tudung + tshirt + tracksuit combos



[duh]



[/quote]



That's why you don't just go "anywhere"...  [H]

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on November 07, 2007, 03:10:56 pm
[quote user="jack208"]

[quote user="Champion Eternal"]
Good luck in the Scrabble - take lots of pics and put up a report here, if admin says it is permissible.
[/quote]



Oh yes I've asked him to blog about his scrabble exploits here but he shyly said he's worried his scrabble report is too boring for you all to read wor. [:P] After all, Scrabble is still a boardgame.



[/quote]



To make it interesting, make it dramatic, keep the prose short and take lots of pictures.

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on November 07, 2007, 03:13:19 pm
[quote user="aanemesis"][quote user="wolfx"]

Haha...you wish. If the beach is anywhere in Malaysia, you'll probably only get to see



1.) fat sunbathing ang mous
2.) tudung + tshirt + tracksuit combos



[duh]



[/quote]



That's why you don't just go "anywhere"...  [H]



[/quote]



You r a good boy, aanemesis.

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on November 08, 2007, 10:41:02 am
[quote user="Champion Eternal"][quote user="jack208"]

[quote user="Champion Eternal"]
Good luck in the Scrabble - take lots of pics and put up a report here, if admin says it is permissible.
[/quote]



Oh yes I've asked him to blog about his scrabble exploits here but he shyly said he's worried his scrabble report is too boring for you all to read wor. [:P] After all, Scrabble is still a boardgame.



[/quote]



To make it interesting, make it dramatic, keep the prose short and take lots of pictures.

[/quote]

Are you sure you guys can handle 25 games of finished Scrabble boards and game logs [pullhair]
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: ayheng on November 09, 2007, 02:11:34 am
looks like not enough kaki for 18XX and TI3. Maybe we should just join macedwin and his Dune game. Or maybe take the oppurtunity to play essen releases that were not played during the day.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: jack208 on November 09, 2007, 09:48:57 am
[quote user="aanemesis"][quote user="wolfx"] Haha...you wish. If the beach is anywhere in Malaysia, you'll probably only get to see

1.) fat sunbathing ang mous
2.) tudung + tshirt + tracksuit combos[/quote]



That's why you don't just go "anywhere"...  [H][/quote]



The action can be on the airplane. You flying Qantas Air by any chance? [;)]

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on November 10, 2007, 01:28:38 pm
[quote user="ayheng"]looks like not enough kaki for 18XX and TI3. Maybe we should just join macedwin and his Dune game. Or maybe take the oppurtunity to play essen releases that were not played during the day.[/quote]

you haven't asked the Singaporeans yet.
Why don't you ask give them a shout and see the results (or ask Jeff real nicely).
Whatever happens, we expect a kick-ass gaming session report, everyday.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on November 10, 2007, 01:28:57 pm
[quote user="jack208"][quote user="aanemesis"][quote user="wolfx"] Haha...you wish. If the beach is anywhere in Malaysia, you'll probably only get to see

1.) fat sunbathing ang mous
2.) tudung + tshirt + tracksuit combos[/quote]



That's why you don't just go "anywhere"...  [H][/quote]



The action can be on the airplane. You flying Qantas Air by any chance? [;)]

[/quote]

I think Tiger Airways.....
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: aanemesis on November 10, 2007, 04:51:03 pm

[quote user="jack208"]The action can be on the airplane. You flying Qantas Air by any chance? [;)][/quote]



You'll be happy to know I spotted many young human females wearing the wonderful bikini. No, they're not overweight. Yes, they're real not imagined. Yes, it's a beach in Malaysia. [ip]

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: jack208 on November 10, 2007, 10:58:34 pm
[quote user="aanemesis"]You'll be happy to know I spotted many young human females wearing the wonderful bikini. No, they're not overweight. Yes, they're real not imagined. Yes, it's a beach in Malaysia. [ip][/quote]

wat say you we hold the 18xx Con there? Beach, ASH gals, sun, bikinis, trains and the 18xx game - almost paradise!!! [fiesta]

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on November 11, 2007, 05:36:15 am
[quote user="aanemesis"]

[quote user="jack208"]The action can be on the airplane. You flying Qantas Air by any chance? [;)][/quote]



You'll be happy to know I spotted many young human females wearing the wonderful bikini. No, they're not overweight. Yes, they're real not imagined. Yes, it's a beach in Malaysia. [ip]



[/quote]



I demand to know the location of such a paradise. [ip]

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: shrapnel on November 11, 2007, 08:52:33 am
[quote user="wolfx"][quote user="aanemesis"]

[quote user="jack208"]The action can be on the airplane. You flying Qantas Air by any chance? [;)][/quote]



You'll be happy to know I spotted many young human females wearing the wonderful bikini. No, they're not overweight. Yes, they're real not imagined. Yes, it's a beach in Malaysia. [ip]



[/quote]



I demand to know the location of such a paradise. [ip]

[/quote]

AA, tell me where it is first...
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: jack208 on November 11, 2007, 09:18:50 am
[quote user="wolfx"][quote user="aanemesis"]

[quote user="jack208"]The action can be on the airplane. You flying Qantas Air by any chance? [;)][/quote]



You'll be happy to know I spotted many young human females wearing the wonderful bikini. No, they're not overweight. Yes, they're real not imagined. Yes, it's a beach in Malaysia. [ip]



[/quote]



I demand to know the location of such a paradise. [ip]



[/quote]



sssshh, aanemesis, dun tell them [:S] I think you got them where we wanted them. Let's do 18xx Retreat at that place. Now guaranteed to get a whole bunch of buayas coming for the retreat..... hehe

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on November 11, 2007, 10:52:47 pm
[quote user="rhyen"][quote user="Champion Eternal"][quote user="jack208"]

[quote user="Champion Eternal"]
Good luck in the Scrabble - take lots of pics and put up a report here, if admin says it is permissible.
[/quote]



Oh yes I've asked him to blog about his scrabble exploits here but he shyly said he's worried his scrabble report is too boring for you all to read wor. [:P] After all, Scrabble is still a boardgame.



[/quote]



To make it interesting, make it dramatic, keep the prose short and take lots of pictures.

[/quote]

Are you sure you guys can handle 25 games of finished Scrabble boards and game logs [pullhair]
[/quote]

Just put up the most interesting games, lah.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on November 12, 2007, 01:47:19 pm
[quote user="aanemesis"]

[quote user="jack208"]The action can be on the airplane. You flying Qantas Air by any chance? [;)][/quote]



You'll be happy to know I spotted many young human females wearing the wonderful bikini. No, they're not overweight. Yes, they're real not imagined. Yes, it's a beach in Malaysia. [ip]

[/quote]

not the body-hugging burq-ini?
God, this is a Muslim country, for crying out loud!!! [:P]
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on November 12, 2007, 01:48:25 pm
[quote user="jack208"][quote user="aanemesis"]You'll be happy to know I spotted many young human females wearing the wonderful bikini. No, they're not overweight. Yes, they're real not imagined. Yes, it's a beach in Malaysia. [ip][/quote]

wat say you we hold the 18xx Con there? Beach, ASH gals, sun, bikinis, trains and the 18xx game - almost paradise!!! [fiesta]

[/quote]

Seconded, and only dedicate 18xx gamers need apply (ie, those guys who have ordered the game or bought the game already, gals just come as they are)
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on November 12, 2007, 01:49:08 pm
[quote user="wolfx"][quote user="aanemesis"]

[quote user="jack208"]The action can be on the airplane. You flying Qantas Air by any chance? [;)][/quote]



You'll be happy to know I spotted many young human females wearing the wonderful bikini. No, they're not overweight. Yes, they're real not imagined. Yes, it's a beach in Malaysia. [ip]



[/quote]



I demand to know the location of such a paradise. [ip]

[/quote]

Demand rejected.
Application denied.
You shall be terminated.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on November 12, 2007, 01:50:11 pm
[quote user="shrapnel"][quote user="wolfx"][quote user="aanemesis"]

[quote user="jack208"]The action can be on the airplane. You flying Qantas Air by any chance? [;)][/quote]



You'll be happy to know I spotted many young human females wearing the wonderful bikini. No, they're not overweight. Yes, they're real not imagined. Yes, it's a beach in Malaysia. [ip]



[/quote]



I demand to know the location of such a paradise. [ip]

[/quote]

AA, tell me where it is first...
[/quote]

Intruder alert,
Interloper trying to hack into secret location.
Commencing countermeasures: [plasmagun]
Countermeasures deployed.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on November 12, 2007, 01:51:10 pm
[quote user="jack208"][quote user="wolfx"][quote user="aanemesis"]

[quote user="jack208"]The action can be on the airplane. You flying Qantas Air by any chance? [;)][/quote]



You'll be happy to know I spotted many young human females wearing the wonderful bikini. No, they're not overweight. Yes, they're real not imagined. Yes, it's a beach in Malaysia. [ip]



[/quote]



I demand to know the location of such a paradise. [ip]



[/quote]



sssshh, aanemesis, dun tell them [:S] I think you got them where we wanted them. Let's do 18xx Retreat at that place. Now guaranteed to get a whole bunch of buayas coming for the retreat..... hehe

[/quote]

You sure, Jeff?
It might sink the whole 18xx con instead.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on November 12, 2007, 01:52:03 pm
[quote user="Champion Eternal"][quote user="rhyen"][quote user="Champion Eternal"][quote user="jack208"]

[quote user="Champion Eternal"]
Good luck in the Scrabble - take lots of pics and put up a report here, if admin says it is permissible.
[/quote]



Oh yes I've asked him to blog about his scrabble exploits here but he shyly said he's worried his scrabble report is too boring for you all to read wor. [:P] After all, Scrabble is still a boardgame.



[/quote]



To make it interesting, make it dramatic, keep the prose short and take lots of pictures.

[/quote]

Are you sure you guys can handle 25 games of finished Scrabble boards and game logs [pullhair]
[/quote]

Just put up the most interesting games, lah.
[/quote]

Just like in Go and Scrabble, every game is interesting.
There is no such thing as a game where you can't learn something from it.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on November 12, 2007, 06:39:29 pm
[quote user="rhyen"][quote user="jack208"][quote user="aanemesis"]You'll be happy to know I spotted many young human females wearing the wonderful bikini. No, they're not overweight. Yes, they're real not imagined. Yes, it's a beach in Malaysia. [ip][/quote]

wat say you we hold the 18xx Con there? Beach, ASH gals, sun, bikinis, trains and the 18xx game - almost paradise!!! [fiesta]

[/quote]

Seconded, and only dedicate 18xx gamers need apply (ie, those guys who have ordered the game or bought the game already, gals just come as they are)
[/quote]

Good idea!
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on November 12, 2007, 06:40:34 pm
[quote user="rhyen"][quote user="wolfx"][quote user="aanemesis"]

[quote user="jack208"]The action can be on the airplane. You flying Qantas Air by any chance? [;)][/quote]



You'll be happy to know I spotted many young human females wearing the wonderful bikini. No, they're not overweight. Yes, they're real not imagined. Yes, it's a beach in Malaysia. [ip]



[/quote]



I demand to know the location of such a paradise. [ip]

[/quote]

Demand rejected.
Application denied.
You shall be terminated.
[/quote]

Admin should know.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on November 12, 2007, 06:41:33 pm
[quote user="rhyen"][quote user="jack208"][quote user="wolfx"][quote user="aanemesis"]

[quote user="jack208"]The action can be on the airplane. You flying Qantas Air by any chance? [;)][/quote]



You'll be happy to know I spotted many young human females wearing the wonderful bikini. No, they're not overweight. Yes, they're real not imagined. Yes, it's a beach in Malaysia. [ip]



[/quote]



I demand to know the location of such a paradise. [ip]



[/quote]



sssshh, aanemesis, dun tell them [:S] I think you got them where we wanted them. Let's do 18xx Retreat at that place. Now guaranteed to get a whole bunch of buayas coming for the retreat..... hehe

[/quote]

You sure, Jeff?
It might sink the whole 18xx con instead.
[/quote]

At least fun is guaranteed.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on November 12, 2007, 06:43:00 pm
[quote user="rhyen"][quote user="Champion Eternal"][quote user="rhyen"][quote user="Champion Eternal"][quote user="jack208"]

[quote user="Champion Eternal"]
Good luck in the Scrabble - take lots of pics and put up a report here, if admin says it is permissible.
[/quote]



Oh yes I've asked him to blog about his scrabble exploits here but he shyly said he's worried his scrabble report is too boring for you all to read wor. [:P] After all, Scrabble is still a boardgame.



[/quote]



To make it interesting, make it dramatic, keep the prose short and take lots of pictures.

[/quote]

Are you sure you guys can handle 25 games of finished Scrabble boards and game logs [pullhair]
[/quote]

Just put up the most interesting games, lah.
[/quote]

Just like in Go and Scrabble, every game is interesting.
There is no such thing as a game where you can't learn something from it.
[/quote]

Go is more interesting. In Scrabble, if you end up playing with a dickhead, you get a crap game.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: shrapnel on November 13, 2007, 06:44:17 am
[quote user="Champion Eternal"][quote user="rhyen"][quote user="Champion Eternal"][quote user="rhyen"][quote user="Champion Eternal"][quote user="jack208"]

[quote user="Champion Eternal"]
Good luck in the Scrabble - take lots of pics and put up a report here, if admin says it is permissible.
[/quote]



Oh yes I've asked him to blog about his scrabble exploits here but he shyly said he's worried his scrabble report is too boring for you all to read wor. [:P] After all, Scrabble is still a boardgame.



[/quote]



To make it interesting, make it dramatic, keep the prose short and take lots of pictures.

[/quote]

Are you sure you guys can handle 25 games of finished Scrabble boards and game logs [pullhair]
[/quote]

Just put up the most interesting games, lah.
[/quote]

Just like in Go and Scrabble, every game is interesting.
There is no such thing as a game where you can't learn something from it.
[/quote]

Go is more interesting. In Scrabble, if you end up playing with a dickhead, you get a crap game.
[/quote]

Sounds like someone's getting P.I.S.S.E.D - do I get triple score for that? [innocent]
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on November 13, 2007, 10:56:31 am
[quote user="Champion Eternal"][quote user="rhyen"]

You sure, Jeff?
It might sink the whole 18xx con instead.
[/quote]

At least fun is guaranteed.
[/quote]

If you say so....but then again, you agree with me about the prerequisites that we stipulated earlier.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: rhyen on November 13, 2007, 10:57:07 am
[quote user="shrapnel"]

Sounds like someone's getting P.I.S.S.E.D - do I get triple score for that? [innocent]
[/quote]

No, you won't even get the 50 points bingo bonus and you missed the triple word score by 2 spaces.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on November 14, 2007, 12:42:37 am
[quote user="rhyen"][quote user="Champion Eternal"][quote user="rhyen"]

You sure, Jeff?
It might sink the whole 18xx con instead.
[/quote]

At least fun is guaranteed.
[/quote]

If you say so....but then again, you agree with me about the prerequisites that we stipulated earlier.
[/quote]

Members of the con might be playing B Memo instead. I guess that's where the thematic game session  comes in - the railheads will wear Casey Jr outfits and the ASH wear bikinis.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on November 19, 2007, 04:44:03 am
Dear All,



Due to an overwhelming number of wedding dinners on 24-25 November, we have shifted the retreat to 1-2 December.



The schedule remains the same:

Register at 830am on Saturday; ends at 100pm on Sunday.

Lunch, Dinner, Breakfast and tea breaks + Saturday night accommodation on twin share included.



In addition to the bundled package, we will be offering 20 titles @ 50% off for those attending to help defray the increased cost of this year's event.



Total of 16 seats available - 28 games, each will play 7 games based on table positions.



Currently confirmed:

1. EW.

2. Shaun.

3. J-Fei.

4. AyHeng.

5. Wolfx.

6. Champion Eternal.

7. Singapore 1.

8. Singapore 2.



so there are only 8 seats left.



Please email me to confirm.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on November 19, 2007, 06:17:05 am

edwin: I am more or less 90% confirmed can come on the new date, as a new unexpected project may force me to return to Jakarta. I am submitting to my boss for the Dec 1- 2 weekend that I want to remain in Malaysia , so I don't think its a problem la, hopefully.



Jeff: Oi you got advertise the retreat to the non-forum goers or not, especially the A.S.H bunch like Kah May and Steven, Bee Lin (?) , etc? 

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: jack208 on November 19, 2007, 12:20:13 pm

[quote user="wolfx"]Jeff: Oi you got advertise the retreat to the non-forum goers or not, especially the A.S.H bunch like Kah May and Steven, Bee Lin (?) , etc? [/quote]



are you planning to sponsor them ar? they are half studying/working and this is something of a luxury for them especially as boardgames is not the center of their life. [:P]

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on November 19, 2007, 01:19:21 pm
[quote user="jack208"]

[quote user="wolfx"]Jeff: Oi you got advertise the retreat to the non-forum goers or not, especially the A.S.H bunch like Kah May and Steven, Bee Lin (?) , etc? [/quote]



are you planning to sponsor them ar? they are half studying/working and this is something of a luxury for them especially as boardgames is not the center of their life. [:P]



[/quote]



The only ones I am sponsoring are those that share the same room as me. Hooo hooo hooo.



Jack, get me the number for Hotel Cheras. [:$]



 

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on November 19, 2007, 01:24:35 pm
info on rooming @ awana...



- price includes sat night accommodation on a twin share basis.

- there is no extra charge if you want to add a couple of a.s.h., so long as your assigned room mate does not complaint.

- all extra baggage will have to find their own meals though.

- the rooms are in the tower block, not the old condos, which means there is no kitchenette to cook maggi mee.



;-)
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on November 19, 2007, 05:51:57 pm
Will need to confirm at a later date. What is the dateline for confirmation?
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on November 21, 2007, 03:14:23 pm
Yes, we have switched venue from Awana to Selesa Hill Homes (at the foot of the hill before Awana) and am pleased to now offer you this euro game fiesta at only RM188.00!!!



Includes Saturday lunch, dinner, 2 tea breaks and twin share accommodation, and Sunday breakfast and 1 tea break - a great deal!



And its still only 20+ minutes up to Genting if you want to go there on Saturday night!



Plus, participants will get a chance to buy up to 20 games at 50% off...



Please join as there is no better deal than this!!!



Hope to see you below the hills...
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on November 21, 2007, 03:29:56 pm

[quote user="macedwin"]Yes, we have switched venue from Awana to Selesa Hill Homes (at the foot of the hill before Awana) and am pleased to now offer you this euro game fiesta at only RM188.00!!! Includes Saturday lunch, dinner, 2 tea breaks and twin share accommodation, and Sunday breakfast and 1 tea break - a great deal! And its still only 20+ minutes up to Genting if you want to go there on Saturday night! Plus, participants will get a chance to buy up to 20 games at 50% off... Please join as there is no better deal than this!!! Hope to see you below the hills...[/quote]



Selesa isn't as "selesa" as they make it out to be but they're serviceable I guess. You get what you pay for. So macedwin RM188 does not include any game package ya?



And an idea...instead of 30th November OTK, we should do 30th November Genting Highlands!! Mwahhaha. Its not too far from Cheras anyway....about 30-40 minute drive? Play boardgames at Starbucks until 4-5 am....tidor in car (you can do it....its soooo cool and comfy there!) then drive down to selesa homes in the morning ready for eurogaming! Yeah!

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on November 21, 2007, 04:02:57 pm
awana was great last year, but at rm298 this year compared to selesa at rm188, what to do? the difference was too great to justify...





 
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: ayheng on November 23, 2007, 01:54:09 am

[quote user="macedwin"]Plus, participants will get a chance to buy up to 20 games at 50% off... ...[/quote]



what are the 20 games offered?

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on November 23, 2007, 02:43:09 am
once again, this will only be relesead at the retreat!
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on November 26, 2007, 04:42:43 pm
Less than one week to go, and we are struggling to hit 16 ;-(



We lost a lot of last year's participants for various reasons, and don't seem to have enough to fill their shoes.



Here's the latest list:

1. ew.

2. shaun.

3. jienfei.

4. wolfx.

5. heng.

6. heng+1.

7. spore1.

8. spore2.

9. galouh.

10. mus.

11. vivian.

12. elaine.

13. alfred.

14. ?

15. ?

16. ?



Drag a friend. Please pass the word around and help get it to 16.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on November 26, 2007, 05:19:07 pm

[quote user="macedwin"]Less than one week to go, and we are struggling to hit 16 ;-( We lost a lot of last year's participants for various reasons, and don't seem to have enough to fill their shoes. Here's the latest list: 1. ew. 2. shaun. 3. jienfei. 4. wolfx. 5. heng. 6. heng+1. 7. spore1. 8. spore2. 9. galouh. 10. mus. 11. vivian. 12. elaine. 13. alfred. 14. ? 15. ? 16. ? Drag a friend. Please pass the word around and help get it to 16.[/quote]



Are you relying purely on word of mouth, macedwin? Anyway i confirm ok la this weekend. Too bad the rest of OTK not coming cept me and ayheng. zzz. And i see some potential ASH in that list. Whoopeee. But i think they're just tagging along with their bfs la. [:p] ayheng+1 is probably some paktorlogy thing going on as well.



Get more A.S.H CAMPAIGN!!



PS: Who's driving up? Can I tumpang? =D Can split petrol and toll.

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on November 26, 2007, 05:44:33 pm
nope, went out to all customers on our mailing list + klmeet-up + boardgamecafe site + spore meetup.



don't see stores/cafes doing their part though - perhaps hoping not to "lose" customers over the weekend?



last year we had 4 couples, but all not around/available lah...
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: ayheng on November 27, 2007, 12:10:22 am
[quote user="wolfx"]

Are you relying purely on word of mouth, macedwin? Anyway i confirm ok la this weekend. Too bad the rest of OTK not coming cept me and ayheng. zzz. And i see some potential ASH in that list. Whoopeee. But i think they're just tagging along with their bfs la. [:p] ayheng+1 is probably some paktorlogy thing going on as well.



Get more A.S.H CAMPAIGN!!



PS: Who's driving up? Can I tumpang? =D Can split petrol and toll.



[/quote]

yep, i can tumpang.



an dyes, you guess right. ayheng+1 is some paktorlogy going on. Find your own AASH girls!!!

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on November 27, 2007, 04:26:28 am
ok, we got #14 - leonard!
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on December 02, 2007, 03:19:50 pm

A big thanks to Edwin for organising the Euro Game Retreat! I really enjoyed it there (despite not getting to try Agricola because some people haven't read the rules [:p] ) and hope there will be many more to come. [;)]



My favourite game: Mission: Red Planet .



Freshest game mechanics: Space Dealer .

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on December 02, 2007, 05:40:03 pm
What else was played at the retreat?
Care to post a briefing of the events and games played?
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: ayheng on December 02, 2007, 07:06:31 pm
yeah, like wolfx say, we had a time! but too late and sleepy now, will probably post somethin glater but suffice to say was very satisfied playing all the new essen releases.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on December 03, 2007, 03:15:01 am
million thanks to all who took time/effort to join the retreat!



in the end, the retreat was saved by gamers/newbies from singapore!



full list:

(m'sia)

- ew

- wolfx

- ayheng

- lili

- jfei

- glouh

- shaun

- elfram

- elaine



(s'pore)

- sng

- airin

- madhu

- sheila

- daryl

- vivian



day 1 saw the following games in action: can't stop, uptown, die dolmengotter, darjeeling, chang cheng, stonehenge, zooloretto, neuroshima hex, antler island, container, blue moon city, hameln.



siena and arkadia were "abandoned" after initial rule reading overwhelmed the assigned rule readers!



day 1 night action saw one group going up to genting to try their luck; another playing arkadia and mission red planet; and one more getting an early night's rest.



day 2: king of siam, krumble, space dealer, arkadia, haste bock!, mission red planet.



agricola was there, but although the rules have been read, the game had not yet been playtested, so the participants decided not to give it a go, given all the "translation" comments from bgg.



brass and die saulen der erde did not see any play.



unfortunately, cuba and hamburgum did not arrive in time for the retreat :-(



venue/food-wise, not as nice as awana, but given the cost (neraly half!)...



finally, the results...

- definitely more friendly than last year, this year's format was grouping the winners of each table together to play in the next round, so, you only stay on table 1 if you keep on winning.

- in the end, lili took the honors with 4 wins! well done! and she wins a copy of gifttrap - the perfect gift for this festive season!

- ayheng graciously gave up his second prize to allow our guests from singapore to take home some prizes - all exclusive items from spiel - starfarers of catan figures (airin); ticket to ride mystery train expansion (vivian).



goodies...

- participants got a copy of the best in-print games magazine in town, knucklebones.

- and best of all, they get to buy all the games featured (ie. 2007 & 2006 essen releases) @ 50% mrp! err, not for resale of course!



see you next year... in awana i'm, sure!

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: ayheng on December 03, 2007, 07:51:15 pm
Ok, this is a monster report and I haven't put in wolfx's pics yet. Too tired tonight for it so will only upload the pics tomorrow. in the meantime, enjoy!

Edit: Added pictures, changed various spelling and grammars. Pics again courtesy of wolfx.

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EUROGAMES RETREAT 2007 REPORT

Date: 1-2 December 2007


Venue: Le Sihat Hall, Selesa Hillhomes



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View from Selesa Hillhomes - cool air green hills.



You might be wondering why the hall is called “Le Sihat”, well it

seems that Selesa Hillhomes is home to a regular health wellness

program. In fact, on the morning that we arrived, we saw a group of

people practicing a sort of massaging technique in an open field using

wooden sticks. Supposedly it helps with the body’s lymphatic movements.

Well, in our case, we massaged our ‘brain’ throughout the entire

weekend with wooden bits, and what a massage it was!



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Another view from back of Le Sihat Hall - bottom just out of view is the open field.



Contrary to speculation, the attendees of Eurogames Retreat 2007

aren’t all young working adults with lots of disposable income and no

commitments. In fact, the age range was like 1 to 40 years old. The

cast of characters includes: -



Madhu, Sheila and Daryl - a chess-playing family of husband, wife and son,


Elaine, Elfram and ‘baby’ - another family (but stayed for first day gaming only),


S’ng - Singaporean gamer who was there by default because he bugged Edwin to join last year,


Airin (pronounced as I-rene) - Indonesian Chinese working in Singapore,


Vivian - Singaporean hotelier working in Malaysia, also Madhu’s friend,


Ken - nicknamed wolfx, also bachelor searching for ASH (available single hot) girls,


Edwin, Shaun, Jian Fei and Galouh - Edwin’s entourage,


Li Li and Heng - significant other and myself.



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Participants listening attentively to Edwin’s opening speech -

table no.2 on left: Sheila and Heng; table no.3 on right: Daryl,

Vivian, Li Li and Shaun; table no.1 in front: Airin and Jian Fei.



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View from back of Le Sihat Hall - Not seen on previous picture:

Madhu on table no.1, Galouh and S’ng on table no.2 (backs to camera)



All told, there were 15 of us at one time (16 if you count the baby

:P) and 13 of us when Elaine and Elfram left. Edwin sat out for most of

the games (poor guy!) to arbitrate on the proceedings. The result is

that there were 3 tables’ of game going on at all times with 4-5

players each.



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Organiser Edwin bringing out the first bunch of games.



Gaming started with light fillers. Instead of everyone doing Pickomino like last year, starters for this year were more varied:


Table1: Can’t Stop


Table 2: Uptown


Table 3: Die Dolmengotter


Uptown was really a simple game to play and I had no

trouble smashing my way to victory. It’s an abstract tile laying game

with the objective of connecting as many of your own tiles as possible.

To this end, the middle of the board is an important point to hold.

There is also the secondary strategy of building a great line as quick

as possible to block off your opponents’ route. In terms of complexity

it is on par with Blokus but the scores would be much closer due to the mostly open nature of the game.



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Table no.2 doing Uptown - from left: S’ng, Galouh, Sheila and Heng.



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Closeup of Uptown.



Can’t Stop is a simple dice game which some how ran long because all the players got bad dice rolls.



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Closeup of Can’t Stop.



Die Dolmengotter on the other hand is a classic

eurogame with minimalist graphics and intriguing gameplay. It’s a game

about druids but as Ken commented, you can’t really see the theme from

the plain boards and bits. However, that still didn’t stop Li Li from

enjoying the game and commenting ‘can we get this game?’ after playing

it.



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Table no.3 doing Die Dolmengotter - from left: Daryl, Vivian, Li Li and Shaun.


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Closeup of Die Dolmengotter.



Next up is a short tea break and then a step up in game complexity:


Table 1: Darjeeling


Table 2: Chang Cheng


Table 3: Stonehenge


These three games are 2007 Essen releases and I’m at table 1 playing Darjeeling.

There were some rules taught wrong (which seems to be the recurring

theme throughout the retreat due to the large number of new games

played for the 1st/2nd time). But that didn’t stop us from enjoying the

game. The game’s premise is that the players are tea companies

competing to produce and ship teas. Sounds like a typical produce and

ship game, right? Well, the difference is in the game’s all fresh and

new mechanics. The tea ‘plantation’ which the players compete on are

actually made up of square tiles which when collected, can be formed

‘carcassonne’-like into tea crates to be shipped. Very novel.



The other innovation of the game is in the concept of shipping. In Darjeeling,

the tea crates shipped are not scored and discarded immediately.

Instead, the tea crates shipped will generate victory points

continuously until newer teas are shipped, causing the old teas to

become ‘out of fad’. The timing of the tea shipping can become critical

as players try to position their tea as the ‘last word’ in the latest

tea fad.



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Table no.1 doing Darjeeling - Elaine and ‘baby’ at top joining from game#2 onwards.



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Super cool Darjeeling components - the victory

point track, shipping boats and demand slide/barometer at top - the tea

pickers in the ‘tea fields’ of ‘carcassonne-like tea crates’ at bottom.



Did not look at Chang Cheng and Stonehenge as the Darjeeling game was the last game to end.



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Closeup of Stonehenge.



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Table no.3 doing Stonehenge - Elfram at top left joining from game#2 onwards.



We break for lunch before getting together again for the Third Game:


Table 1: Zooloretto


Table 2: Neuroshima Hex


Table 3: Antler Island


Antler Island is the latest game by the Lamont

brothers (Fragor Games). Known for their cute themes and cute

miniatures, the Lamont brothers’ Antler Island

recounts the tale of the mightiest Stag of them all. In this game, the

players feed, grow an impressive set of antlers, mate with does and

finally lock horns with other stags in an ongoing ‘king of the hill’

battle. The game mechanics are simple enough and the ‘programmed

orders’ mechanic provides some interesting and unexpected results. It

actually reminds me of a Starcraft:the boardgame session in the programmed orders resolution.



The timing of when a stag battles to be the ‘king of the hill’ is

important as the last stag left on the hill at the end will earn a

great amount of victory points. In our game, S’ng timed his battles

well to stay on top for the greater part of the game. However a late

charge by Vivian saw him dethroned and myself snatching the victory as

both S’ng and Vivian’s stags were left licking their wounds after a big

battle. I was kinda lucky to be able to snatch victory from the jaws of

defeat. Overall, this game is an attractive package that plays as well

as it looks.



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The visually appealing Antler Island - crazy cute stags shagging doe-ples (doe meeples)



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Antler Island player board - ‘programmed order’ tokens to the right, antlers made of brown sticks in middle. 



The Neuroshima Hex game ended early and the Zooloretto

game was already in the second round. Seems like my game went over time

again :P. I’ve seen/played both games before so nothing much to report

except that I’m considering to get Zooloretto as the game seems well received by everyone.



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 The chick friendly Zooloretto drawing a crowd

- they are in their 2nd game, hence the attention from the other

completed tables. Madhu seems to be concentrating hard… this ain’t

chess, man!



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Closeup of the Zooloretto player board - note the cutesy animals.



We break for tea again and then to the final game of the day:


Table 1: Container


Table 2: Arkadia - Blue Moon City


Table 3: Siena - Hameln


This is where Edwin made a boo-boo and made us read the rules before

playing. I tell you it just doesn’t work (cue rantings of a failed Marvel Heroes

gaming in one of my last vacation due to last minute rules reading…)

Although I’m sure everyone enjoyed tearing open the shrink-wrap and

punching out the counters, everyone sat around looking politely

interested as the rules reader struggles to read at top speed. At Table

1 - I stuck with explaining Container as I had read

the rules online before. But since I am seeing the components for the

first time it is still tough going for me. I lost Daryl during the

rules explanation but fortunately the adults bear with me as we got the

game up to speed. The beginning is very slow and I must say that it is

because of the nature of the game.



Basically the players have to wear many different hats as they play

different roles in the supply chain. On one hand the players are

factory producers producing containers and on the other hand, they are

also the port masters, container ship captains and consumers as well

(basically every other person in the supply chain). The idea that is

difficult to grasp is that in wearing the many different kind of hats,

the player is generally not allowed to buy nor sell the containers from

himself TO himself at any point. The strategy then is to find ways to

get the containers you want to yourself in the most indirect manner.



The other difficult concept about the game is that there is no hard

and fast rule on the value of the containers at every point in the

supply chain. There is a range in which the prices may vary but the

strategy in setting the prices again is not clear. The easiest way in

understanding the economics in Containers is that

collusion, diplomacy, price fixing, negotiation and cooperation

determines the prices. Playing this game, one can actually see the

effect of inflation in action as all members of the supply chain tries

to jack up the price of the containers for their own selfish benefit.

The real world economics reflected in the game is awe-inspiring and

scary at the same time. Not one for the faint hearted, a player can

actually be shut out entirely if the others refuse to do business with

him.



Surprisingly the other players - Vivian, Sheila and Li Li gave this

game a thumbs up for requiring real world skills to be put to use in

this game. For me, watching inflation and people trying to get more

money out of others is actually quite depressingly real world. Woo, I

want back my stags and tea shipping.



Meanwhile, on the other table, S’ng had given up on trying to learn Arkadia while Ken lost hope in deciphering Siena. Instead, Blue Moon City and Hameln hit the table and finish well ahead of Containers. Seems like every game I’ve been in finishes last…



Nighttime we took a break from gaming and we chatted during dinner

time. One group (myself, Li Li, Ken and Airin) decide to pay Genting a

visit, while others decide a full day of gaming is not enough and

soldier on with Arkadia and Mission: Red Planet. Yet another group decide that they had too much brain massage the whole day and hit the sack early instead.



Early morning we woke up, had breakfast, chit chatted some more and then break our game fast with:


Table 1: King of Siam


Table 2: Space Dealer


Table 3: Krumble


I’m at table 2, playing Space Dealer

with Shaun and Galouh. Since its Shaun’s no#XX game, he creamed us. For

the first time, I was involved in a game that actually finished first,

but then with sand timers ticking away, there’s no time to hesitate as

you try to produce and deliver cubes to distant galaxies for victory

points. A fun game, I can see myself playing it as a filler game after

being all stressed out with the heavy games.



After we finish our game, we went and check out King of Siam

at table 1 and during the game end, everyone has the same amount of

influence cubes! All four players therefore declare the game a tie!

Further examination of the rules by Jian Fei and myself found that the

game was actually taught and played wrongly! From the setup to the

tiebreaker calculation, there are little nuances missed which would

have made the game more interesting. Haiyor, rules teacher caught

red-handed teaching rules wrong again.



Anyway, after clarifying the rules, Li Li, myself and Jian Fei sat

down for a 3-player game and my oh my is it good! Basically the players

try to gain influence in various factions in Thailand during the age of

political upheaval and British interest. The royalist, with their power

base in Bangkok fights against the Malay faction in Kedah and the Laos

faction in Luang Prabang.



The interesting thing is that each player only has 8 action cards

with which they influence the power struggles in the 8 provinces of

Siam. So for the whole game, a player only takes…. 8 actions! Very

fast, very easy, right? Wrong! The proceedings are often intense and

the power struggles are often down the wire. The shift in power is

continuous and the wrong step can totally hand the victory to someone

else.



And so, analysis paralysis sets in, and this game is so finely tuned

that the normal end result is a tie! Hehe, so that first game wasn’t

too far off in its result. But this is a feature rather than a failing

of the game system. The game actually lists all the tiebreaker

conditions prominently on the player aids as though it will be

constantly referred to even before the game ends! There are tiebreaker

conditions for all three of the game’s possible endings and the

challenge therefore is to balance one’s influence markers through the

proceedings and then deliver the coup-de-grace through the tiebreaker.



The other interesting element in the game is in the taking of the

influence cubes. To gain influence over a particular faction, a player

must remove the faction’s cube on the board. But doing so weakens the

faction on the board! So the tension comes when deciding how to gain

influence over a faction yet still ensuring that faction retains its

strength on board. The only random element in the game is in the

initial setup as the number of royalist, Malays and Laos are not

balanced. Anyway a good game, thumbs up from myself.



Did not manage to learn Krumble but judging from the laughters, it’s probably a fun game.



Once again we break for tea and then proceed to the Last game:


Table 1: (Architects of) Arkadia


Table 2: Mission: Red Planet


Table 3: Haste Bock!


By this time, Edwin probably had a good idea of what everyone’s

abilities are at and he assigned the players to the order of game

complexity. So table 1 saw all the heavy hitters while table 2 have the

moderately skilled guys (some might argue that they are just unlucky to

have not win any games!) while the family played at table 3.

Accordingly, table 1 has the heavy game, table 2 have the medium game

and table 3 have the cute game. Being the last game, Arkadia

is actually quite a standard game where the game mechanics are familiar

and possibly seen elsewhere. The game is very simple and the scoring

method is reminiscence of Reef Encounter. The game

production quality is amazing though and the hanging of the flag on the

player’s tent after scoring is just way cool! I won the last game but

the scores are still pretty tight, which is probably a hint at possible

subtle strategies that I may have missed in my initial assessment.

Still I won’t mind another game just to find out.



Ken quite enjoyed Mission: Red Planet and my impression is that it is a boardgame version of the Citadels game by the same author. Haste Bock! I did not manage to see as our Arkadia game once again is the last game to finish.



After that Edwin gave a final summing up speech and present prizes for winners! For finishing with most wins, Li Li got Gifttrap, Airin got the Starfarers of Catan miniatures for finishing second while Vivian got the limited edition Ticket to Ride

Mystery Train expansion. Shaun was disqualified for being Edwin’s son

(muahaha) while I myself abstained as Li Li already had a prize.


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Edwin doing the closing/summing - note the drawing board of all the players’ standings in the games.



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Edwin describing the cool factor of the Starfarers of Catan miniatures.



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Li Li and myself caught on camera by Ken.



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Airin and her super cool Starfarers of Catan miniatures!



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Li Li the overall winner receiving the prize of Gifttrap!




Later we all had lunch at one of the restaurants outside Selesa

Hillhomes at Janda Baik. Good food and conversation to be had and it

was nice to know all the people there, especially the friendly

Singaporeans. They were quite candid about the concept of kiasu-ism

amongst Singaporeans but I was surprised to find that waiting in line

for the best bargains is considered kiasu. Sounds more like a shopping

culture to me.



Highlights of the retreat for me are: Darjeeling and King of Siam.


Boos for the retreat: Unplayed games!: Agricola, Brass, Die Saulen De Erde. Also boos for the rules mis-teaching (yes, I’m a picky rules lawyer :P)



Singaporean gamer S’ng also graciously left his h/p number and

offered to fix up visiting Malaysian gamers with Singaporean gaming

groups and special interest groups (ASLSK, 18XX, etc.) Ask me for the number.



We had a time, and I wish there were more people coming to share it

with us. To inspire people who were on the fence about this trip in

order to come for the next trip, please remember to save RM20 a month

for one year and remember that old Malay proverb - “Hendak, seratus

daya, tak nak, seribu dalih”.





Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on December 04, 2007, 02:41:30 am
Wow! Monster report! Very well-written, Hengy. Sounds like everyone enjoyed themselves.

Brass is available at Mage Cafe. It probably is not owned by Mage, but by a gamer. If you ask Ryan nicely, he'd probably let you play. [:)] It is a good game, well worth trying out.

I'm not too keen on Mission Red Planet, nut I know some ppl like it.

Too bad Agricola was not played. It would have been good to get some feedback on that.

So, Container is not your cup of tea, eh? You prefer Darjeeling? Mmmm, from your description of Container, it sounds very much like a game that I would like. But the remarks from BGC (not the ratings) make me hesitate. If I could get a game or two in before I decide, that would be good...(hint, hint to whoever owns Container)[;)]

As for King of Siam: issit abstract or historical? Do you feel that the theme is relevant to the mechanics or pasted on? This is annuder game that I have been eyeing since before Essen.

Thanks for the report - very helpful to ppl who were not there.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: dave on December 04, 2007, 03:25:51 am

Your description of Container sounds intriguing..... It sounds like a game worth trying as the mechanics sounds very different from most other games.



Ta for the excellent report!

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: aanemesis on December 04, 2007, 03:45:58 am

Thanks for the report! Too bad Brass didn't get to be played. I am looking for more plays of this game, so do ask Ryan to teach you. Was also hoping to get feedback on Agricola. Haste Bock is a remake of Shear Panic, IIRC, which is a fun game. Die Saulen De Erde was unplayed? Shame. Beautiful board, it has wooden cubes, and a very nice turn marker in the centre i.e. 6-piece wooden cathedral gradually built up during the game.



BTW, it's "Hendak, seribu daya...."

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on December 04, 2007, 04:15:09 am
wow.... super monster report!!! thanks!!!



guess we wait for wolfx to report on the games he played that was not in heng's report... chang cheng, blue moon city, red planet, etc. they also played some games together like antler island, etc.



errr, must find a better way to teach rules... put it on a video clip next year! by the time i taught the 10th game, i couldn't tell the difference between meeples and druids (ask ken)! ha2!



my apologies for the rule errors, but as they say - all is fair when all play the same wrong rules! hehe...



ok, here's my take on the games (bar those i still haven't played - blue moon city, container):



my favorite (yea, like it means anything these days, since blokus is my favorite game!) - king of siam!!! it has the concept of liberte where you have to pick a faction to run with. it plays sooo fast (30-40 mins). it is sooo tense (man, you only have 8 moves and there are 8 provinces to fight for, with no limit to the number of cards you can play to resolve each province!). IT HAS KEDAH/MALAYSIA ON THE MAP!!! yeehah!



great games for newbies/families - zooloretto (no wonder it won the games of the year), chang cheng (might be this year's game of the year), krumble. i'm excluding the light stuff which is of course suitable for newbies. woflx will probably write abot chang cheng, so here's something about the noisy game...



krumble will instantly appeal to anyone who's seen indianna jones & the temple of doom! up to 6 explorers start in level 1 of a temple, with the sole objective of running as fast as you can and finding the exit! each room you enter costs you certain points - either knowledge, strength or agility (you start with 6 of each, which is the max). when you run low on points, you can rest to regain some - however, the saying "standing still is actually falling behind" is so true here as it could cost you your life if the temple crumbles during your moment of rest! throughout the game, portions of the temple will crumble (level 1, then 2, then 3...), and if your explorer is caught, he/she turns into a ghost! no player elimination, but more fun.. and yes, mega revenge! since you are likely to get caught in the lower levels due to your other explorers throwing obstacles at you, the case of how the ghost comes back to haunt you is oh, so true in this game! once a ghost, your sole objective is to hunt the other living explorers still left in the temple and "suck the life out of them", by draining their points! the game ends when there are no more living explorers left in the temple, and the one with the most life points (all three combined) wins. in the event of a tie, the living explorer wins (ha2)! tons of fun, tension every turn, but light enough for newbies to enjoy!



light stuff - great for fillers - can't stop and uptown. the first is classic push your luck game. good warm up for a night out in genting! the second has the addictiveness of blokus, as you have to clear all (but 4) of your tiles while trying to keep as many, if not all of them, connected in a single group. the winner is the one with the least number of groups (eg. 2 single, unconnected tiles = 2 groups).



brain burners - die dolmengotter. a game about celtic druids and their ritual of forming circles with stones to place dolmens as offerings to their gods. those that make the best offerings shall have the favor the the gods. i would call this a brain burning abstract where the simple part is using your 3 druids to move around to place stones and dolmens in strategic areas. the really tough part is that this is technically a game of majorities... meaning that you cannot place a dolmen if you complete a circle by yourself. so players are forced to compete with others, and hope to be the majority. druids get to place a dolmen at the top of the stack (players have dolmens of various values) each time they gain a majority, and at the bottom of the stack if they equalize an existing majority. thus, the position of dolmens constantly change during the game. which in trun affects the scoring as the higher placed dolmens score more. it plays under an hour and i recommend this for anyone looking for a brain workout!



for euro gamers - darjeeling, arkadia, stonehenge, red planet, antler island, hameln, haste bock, space dealer, etc. of these, red planet stonehenge and antler is probably more suitable for newbies than the others. bear in mind, we only played one (of 5) games within stonehenge - the one by richard garfield - and i liked it.



in this game, magicians compete using the power of their spells (which have different strengths depending on whether it is day or night!) and bluff, to send their apprentices to collect the necessary ingredients, that then allows the magician to raise the majestic stones. i guess this is the first euro game to follow the old "four-in-one" gamesets found in toyshops...



i liked arkadia & darjeeling a lot - no/little luck, beautiful bits, plays within 1-1.5 hours - so i would put them as something heavy gamers might enjoy.



space dealer on the other hand, is simply one-of-a-kind! first time players (no matter how experienced) will be totally overwhelmed as you are playing against time and having to plan your next moves while the sandtimers are counting down (read= 1 minute of thinking time, each time!). it is a lot of fun though!



for heavy gamers - container? have to ask heng on this. from what i hear, its a not-much-room for error type game. but unfortunately, the heavier games either didnt arrive (cuba, hamburgum) or didnt get played (siena).



as for agricola, i don't quite know where to place this, but let's just say that i am playtesting this today, and the first group that will be playing this on saturday/whenever, will be heng-wolfx-lili-ew-shaun!
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on December 04, 2007, 06:04:23 am

Wah u guys gonna be playtesting agricola today? I want! Where? I'm on leave after all.



 

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on December 04, 2007, 08:34:04 am
forgot to mention...



1. all participants got to buy all the games featured, including those yet to arrive, at 50% off retail price... not for re-sale of course ;-)



2. 1st play of agricola, cuba & hamburgum exclusively for participants (who are in town)...
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: ayheng on December 04, 2007, 06:02:23 pm
CE: Thanks, I also wanted to try Agricola, but I rather play later with clarified rules than doing it wrong. Container really caught on with my fiancee for some reason. You can probably give the game a spin. I can give the rules explanation if you want.
King of Siam is more of an abstract game, despite it being released by Histogames, makers of Bonaparte et Marengo and Napoleon's Triumph. However, the theme is rather fitting for the game mechanics in that the King of Siam plays off the various factions against each other to retain its sovereignity.There are historical notes that came with the game but I didn't manage to find time to read it.

Dave: thanks! try out Container with CE, it is different so you can't approach the game with a eurogame mentality.

Aanemesis: You're welcome. I played before Die Saulen De Erde, so no big loss, but I feel for the others :P BTW, I like my proverbs the way it is. If i would change it, I would put "Hendak seribu daya, enggan seratus ribu dalih..." :P

macedwin: So Agricola this Sat? Gotta bring my fiancee, I think she's temporarily addicted.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: jack208 on December 04, 2007, 06:20:38 pm
[quote user="ayheng"]

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Ah... now I und why in another sessrep on Mage, someone commented aanemesis was snickering all the time while playing Antler's Island. You all must have been showing him too much of the stag's backside (see above pic). [:o]



 

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on December 04, 2007, 07:44:00 pm

[quote user="ayheng"]
macedwin: So Agricola this Sat? Gotta bring my fiancee, I think she's temporarily addicted.
[/quote]



macedwin invites you ayheng to a game of Agricola play testing at his place this Friday. In or not?



 

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on December 05, 2007, 01:44:25 am
[quote user="ayheng"] Container really caught on with my fiancee for some reason. You can probably give the game a spin. I can give the rules explanation if you want.

Dave: thanks! try out Container with CE, it is different so you can't approach the game with a eurogame mentality.

[/quote]

Hengy, thanks. Do you know who has an open Container? Unless Macedwin kindly provides his demo copy for us to try. Dave and I were talking about the game yesterday. We reeeeally wanna try it.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: macedwin on December 05, 2007, 03:31:58 am
got demo copy but its going to the new toybox first.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on December 05, 2007, 04:20:33 am
No probs. Got to visit the new toybox to have a look anyways.
Thanks.
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: ayheng on December 05, 2007, 04:30:37 am
oh, forgot to add. just updated my post with pictures from wolfx. now it reeally is monster post
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: ayheng on December 05, 2007, 04:32:15 am
[quote user="wolfx"]

[quote user="ayheng"]
macedwin: So Agricola this Sat? Gotta bring my fiancee, I think she's temporarily addicted.
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macedwin invites you ayheng to a game of Agricola play testing at his place this Friday. In or not?



 



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friday... got OTK or not? how about saturday afternoon?

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on December 05, 2007, 04:45:07 am
[quote user="ayheng"][quote user="wolfx"]

[quote user="ayheng"]
macedwin: So Agricola this Sat? Gotta bring my fiancee, I think she's temporarily addicted.
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macedwin invites you ayheng to a game of Agricola play testing at his place this Friday. In or not?



 



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friday... got OTK or not? how about saturday afternoon?



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Dunno...seems like Jeff airlines still grounded in Brunei. Besides i rather Agricola than OTK. Mwahah.



Oh btw Saturday afternoon I planning to have TI:3 game @ Mage. You in?

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: jack208 on December 05, 2007, 04:01:12 pm
[quote user="ayheng"]friday... got OTK or not? how about saturday afternoon?[/quote]

Got.. OTK Fri is onz tis week. Next week is the FHM thingie though.



btw great report, ayheng!

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: Champion Eternal on December 06, 2007, 03:47:33 am
Nice pics, Wolfx. Was looking for pics of players playing Container to see if they were enjoying themselves or not. [:)]
Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: wolfx on December 06, 2007, 05:12:02 am

[quote user="Champion Eternal"]Nice pics, Wolfx. Was looking for pics of players playing Container to see if they were enjoying themselves or not. [:)]
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Sorry...but 2nd day i was having so much fun until I forgotten to take photos. Haha. Sorry.



 

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: ayheng on December 06, 2007, 06:07:18 am
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Sorry...but 2nd day i was having so much fun until I forgotten to take photos. Haha. Sorry.



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eh dude, container was on 1st day lar... anyways CE. you should get your ass to toybox to try container soon.

Title: 2007 Euro Games Retreat (ideas and proposals)
Post by: ayheng on December 06, 2007, 06:18:03 am
[quote user="jack208"]

Got.. OTK Fri is onz tis week. Next week is the FHM thingie though.



btw great report, ayheng!



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Thanks for the compliment. I'd invited my fiancee for Agricola game already so if that's on, I won't make it for OTK.